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Withywindle

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146. She has a sense of humor about it

Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:46 AM

Aug 2021

Probably what kept her from suicide, IMO. Is she supposed to NOT find a way to get a laugh out of all of this? I'm a little bit older than her, I made similar mistakes in my youth (though NOT, thank god, in the international public eye) and yes, I do find some element of bitter humor in them now.

Her ability to laugh about it now is telling people that the worst mistake of your life does NOT necessarily mean you have to wear sackcloth and ashes forever, even in circumstances as incredibly humiliating as hers.

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So Monica Lewinsky is cashing in [View all] samplegirl Aug 2021 OP

Ryan Murphy should probably stick to American Horror Story nt Shermann Aug 2021 #1

The first two seasons of American Crime were nothing short of fantastic dsc Aug 2021 #80

Yes, American Crime was excellent. mountain grammy Aug 2021 #222

Fanne Foxe would be proud bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #2

Wonder if they'll show the cigar trick. Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #3

I remember William Bennet was all aflutter. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #6

William Bennet. I forgot all about that sanctimonious twat. Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #12

Probably gambling DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #16

That was not a "first," it was a set of salacious smear questions Hortensis Aug 2021 #44

As well she should. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #4

Her entire life has been derailed by something stupid she did when she was 22. meadowlander Aug 2021 #9

Agreed. zuul Aug 2021 #40

Yeah but ahe doesn't need to continue to shame herself onetexan Aug 2021 #57

I can't watch it samplegirl Aug 2021 #77

Chelsea & her kids as well onetexan Aug 2021 #79

I'm going to go out on a limb and bet Hillary has LONG since moved on from that. Treefrog Aug 2021 #177

Bill could have not get involved, issue solved! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #96

Right; as if FORESIGHT is 20/20 onetexan Aug 2021 #106

These Monday morning QBs are silent on Trump's 43 victims. live love laugh Aug 2021 #128

Shame the Clintons? Treefrog Aug 2021 #168

Not anymore he doesn't. onetexan Aug 2021 #171

Neither does she. Treefrog Aug 2021 #175

Whatever. She dsn't seem to feel any shame but she shouldnt subject the clintons to. onetexan Aug 2021 #181

While that's true, remember that Clinton was not helpless in all this. CTyankee Aug 2021 #199

How is she shaming herself? Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #226

Hmm... Sur Zobra Aug 2021 #64

Yes, but this thread is about whether or not Monica Lewinsky has the right to talk about it meadowlander Aug 2021 #88

Like it or not her life IS defined by it. And will be. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #130

And that itself is a problem. Withywindle Aug 2021 #246

This wasn't just any fling ... some consequences live love laugh Aug 2021 #254

I apologize Sur Zobra Aug 2021 #238

I wouldn't call it 50/50 Zeitghost Aug 2021 #112

Some of us called it that at the time, and continue to do so. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #140

This! Treefrog Aug 2021 #178

yep Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #227

Agreed BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #143

Maybe it wasn't derailed at all. fescuerescue Aug 2021 #116

She was bullied and shamed in public for years to the point where she was suicidal, meadowlander Aug 2021 #129

She was an adult and made adult decisions fescuerescue Aug 2021 #162

She made millions in the immedaite aftermath of the scandal. joshcryer Aug 2021 #164

Thank you. AbnerBunny Aug 2021 #15

HELLO, DARLIN'!!! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #72

Sure is! AbnerBunny Aug 2021 #87

Mixed breed or what? Will we see pictures? tblue37 Aug 2021 #109

A puppy!?! YAY!!! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #123

Agreed NQAS Aug 2021 #32

Nor would I. Plus the power differential made consent a gray area. femmedem Aug 2021 #46

The thong display says otherwise. nt pnwmom Aug 2021 #149

Yup! But he should have known better, too. electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #211

Sure. They were both stupid and selfish. pnwmom Aug 2021 #216

She was -not- his victim. Linda Tripp & Co are the villians here. electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #217

Young people are frequently horny Withywindle Aug 2021 #250

+1000! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #93

She and Bill committed adultery and hurt Hillary out of pure selfishness. pnwmom Aug 2021 #148

I agree a gazillion percent. Mossfern Aug 2021 #151

Yes, and it wasn't her first affair with a married man. betsuni Aug 2021 #153

Except Lewinsky has always tried cashing in on the scandal. joshcryer Aug 2021 #163

This 100% oasis Aug 2021 #210

+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #215

She was always reassuring. 'He would never cheat on you, Kate. He loves you so much." Percy Aug 2021 #236

Who? paleotn Aug 2021 #5

Broke ass bitch! samplegirl Aug 2021 #10

Wow. n/t demmiblue Aug 2021 #66

I do t think samplegirl Aug 2021 #81

Really? msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #71

I can't believe it still stands. demmiblue Aug 2021 #82

Sadly, I can. meadowlander Aug 2021 #89

I'm frankly astonished with these disgusting attacks on Lewinsky msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #165

Same poster has a rather interesting thread in the lounge right now. Treefrog Aug 2021 #182

Why do you feel the need to be so disgusting in the ways you refer to her? Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #121

Thank you. Treefrog Aug 2021 #173

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2021 #152

Nah, that she is not. Treefrog Aug 2021 #186

Guess sexist slurs are in vogue Lancero Aug 2021 #248

I have little sympathy for her, but even less for Linda Tripp. brush Aug 2021 #7

Well this proves how remorseful she is. live love laugh Aug 2021 #19

I heard her say Linda Tripp was the one who convinced her to save the dress. Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #27

Yeah, Tripp was the villain, a precursor of the scorched earth repugs of today. brush Aug 2021 #36

IMHO, Lucianne Goldberg was the mastermind. She "commissioned" oasis Aug 2021 #139

Oh...yeahhhh... Lucianne Goldberg. A name I haven't heard in a very long time, or remembered! electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #218

Tripp, a holdover from Poppa Bush's administration, made contact oasis Aug 2021 #230

No kidding! Forgot LG was a publisher. electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #231

Imagine being 48 years old riverwalker Aug 2021 #8

She contributed great ammo for Trump and other republicans milestogo Aug 2021 #23

A whole generation of media wannabees fescuerescue Aug 2021 #118

She pioneered controversy for fame and fortune. joshcryer Aug 2021 #166

This is not her only contribution to the world. AT ALL Withywindle Aug 2021 #244

I may take some flack for this but bottomofthehill Aug 2021 #11

First of all, I don't give a damn . That was Bill Clinton's private life so a big who cares. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #17

Your job is not your private life Sympthsical Aug 2021 #54

+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #61

+1 leftstreet Aug 2021 #68

Monica should have been fired for flashing her panties Nixie Aug 2021 #156

Well said! Treefrog Aug 2021 #179

Great reply. nt Celerity Aug 2021 #245

I agree with you. zuul Aug 2021 #37

+1 iemanja Aug 2021 #42

You are ok with me... multigraincracker Aug 2021 #48

No flack from me. I agree. femmedem Aug 2021 #50

I am 100% in agreement. n/t demmiblue Aug 2021 #55

Well said. Xavier Breath Aug 2021 #86

+1000 nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #97

I agree, but Linda Tripp and the rethugs are the ones who ecstatic Aug 2021 #105

Linda Tripp is human garbage. bottomofthehill Aug 2021 #108

Flack from me: You're right and you should say it Withywindle Aug 2021 #145

That was years ago...I doubt Hillary gives a damn. A big who cares. I won't watch it... Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #14

She won't be cashing in from me. Boomerproud Aug 2021 #18

. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #20

Yes it is good for her -- politically and financially. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #22

Why not make it work for her? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #24

Why should it work for her? She's not some innocent victim. live love laugh Aug 2021 #53

What's the real story, and how is she changing it? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #62

A clip from Arrested Development...... MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #30

I'm sure some RepubliQkkkan financier is footing the bill. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #21

Lol WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #25

That well-known radical, fire-breathing right-winger . . . uh . . . Ryan Murphy n/t Sympthsical Aug 2021 #90

Heh. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #95

Monica was dragged through the mud. She actually moved to Europe to get away Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #26

I'll go further... Arazi Aug 2021 #33

Her post-scandal life has been a constant Merry-Go-Round Grokenstein Aug 2021 #28

She inserts herself for attention then plays victim. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #127

I'm looking forward to the Donald Trump Stormy Daniels affair mini series edbermac Aug 2021 #29

Honestly though, Hillary could have divorced him sboatcar Aug 2021 #31

Maybe they love each other. Some married people do, even if their spouses are flawed. tblue37 Aug 2021 #110

I suspect they might have an "arrangement" Withywindle Aug 2021 #247

I am disgusted NQAS Aug 2021 #34

Unfortunately, it's utterly unsurprising. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #35

Yep. It's pretty mind-boggling. zuul Aug 2021 #39

+1000 FreeState Aug 2021 #47

Totally expected Doc Sportello Aug 2021 #51

A lot of people are two-faced. If it's somebody you hate, yeah! JanMichael Aug 2021 #60

Hillary herself once said, "He's a hard dog to keep on the porch." tblue37 Aug 2021 #111

I'm not surprised , to be honest. Disappointed, yes. Surprised, no. n/t demmiblue Aug 2021 #63

I am absolutely shocked to find people still attacking Monica Lewinsky and defending Bill Clinton greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #69

It's like people are living in an episode of Mad Men Sympthsical Aug 2021 #91

Me too renate Aug 2021 #75

It definitely exposes some people!! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #98

Party loyalty is more important to some people than good morals and decency SunImp Aug 2021 #138

Yeah, me too. yardwork Aug 2021 #132

THANK YOU FOR THIS Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #228

I really hate it when I see Democrats acting mean like Republicans. We are better than that! Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #38

Monica's life is ruined iemanja Aug 2021 #41

Surely she hasn't samplegirl Aug 2021 #78

... demmiblue Aug 2021 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author USALiberal Aug 2021 #104

Her skills? She gave a guy a blow job. It's not uncommon. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #114

I'm sick of the misogynist bullshit iemanja Aug 2021 #117

Yeah, finding these type posts appalling. Treefrog Aug 2021 #174

Can't think of a more boring subject Lettuce Be Aug 2021 #43

Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #99

How about a Netflix series on Ken Starr's attempt to cover up thucythucy Aug 2021 #45

All of this! And I would LOVE to see the "Ken Starr is a rape enabler" Netflix series. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #124

THAT I Would Watch ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #185

I've seen the ads, looks like some republicon sleaze shit spanone Aug 2021 #49

Sarc right? So much for radical feminism. JanMichael Aug 2021 #52

We live in a misogynist culture iemanja Aug 2021 #120

I figured out a few years ago that she had no regrets about the affair JI7 Aug 2021 #56

She seems like she's grown into a perfectly decent woman Sympthsical Aug 2021 #58

I wish her well and plan on watching. demmiblue Aug 2021 #59

I'm looking forward to watching this too. beaglelover Aug 2021 #73

The OJ season was fantastic as well dsc Aug 2021 #83

If you can, watch one episode Sympthsical Aug 2021 #94

I gotta admit. I didn't give 2 shits at the time (the whole circus that came after, not the loss of Carlitos Brigante Sep 2021 #260

+1000, me too! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #100

Also Clive Owen plays Bill Clinton iemanja Aug 2021 #207

Makes sense to me. David__77 Aug 2021 #65

Um, Monica Lewinsky deserves every cent greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #67

She can tell her side of the story. You know -- that freedom of speech thingy? left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #70

She should have divorced Bill's ass right after they left office msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #74

While I myself had trouble understanding why Hillary didn't iemanja Aug 2021 #197

This thread is toxic Politicub Aug 2021 #76

Sing it! Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #229

I have no idea how much she is making for this dsc Aug 2021 #85

Yes, thank you SkylineChili Aug 2021 #103

Great point about her thwarting Starr. And sadly, the sexism seems to be coming from women. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #115

Bill should have known better. Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #92

He was the most powerful man in the world at that time. He shudda just kept her out of the White CTyankee Aug 2021 #101

So true CTyankee! +1000! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #102

He was incredibly foolish getting involved with an intern with a crush. betsuni Aug 2021 #107

I'm sure she was thinking dreams of glory. But he could have put a stop to her advances early on. CTyankee Aug 2021 #158

One trick pony. kskiska Aug 2021 #113

I have a question, as a Gen Z person violasays Aug 2021 #119

See post 85 for answers to part of this. She was young, she was foolish. She had a Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #122

Thank you very much violasays Aug 2021 #134

What a load of nonsense iemanja Aug 2021 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author violasays Aug 2021 #135

Never mind violasays Aug 2021 #136

My, aren't you sensitive iemanja Aug 2021 #137

Lol, add me too! USALiberal Aug 2021 #160

I don't see anyone blaming her for a man's actions BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #142

What culpability? iemanja Aug 2021 #144

+1 Withywindle Aug 2021 #147

"She had sex with a married man. Do you consider all women who have done that culpable?" BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #190

You're intentionally misreading my point about the Cuomo women iemanja Aug 2021 #196

Sure, Jan. BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #214

Please show me iemanja Aug 2021 #223

Well said. Percy Aug 2021 #237

She has a sense of humor about it Withywindle Aug 2021 #146

So she can have a sense of humor about it but others cannot? BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #192

Well, yes! Withywindle Aug 2021 #243

+1000 USALiberal Aug 2021 #159

Perfect response! Treefrog Aug 2021 #184

She was the idiot who gave the President an eyeful of her thong underwear, pnwmom Aug 2021 #150

Lol, so bill couldn't control himself??? Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #161

She never changed her story about what happened but her interpretation has evolved as she's matured. femmedem Aug 2021 #154

The problem is she had a habit of engaging in affairs with married men. joshcryer Aug 2021 #169

If you choose to cheat on your spouse BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #193

How convenient for her. In the interim, the "power differential" theory has sprung up pnwmom Aug 2021 #170

Where did your peers ever get a narrative like that? eShirl Aug 2021 #157

That is what I was trying to ascertain violasays Aug 2021 #194

I don't think she has ever said or done anything that would lead Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #219

Lewinsky has never said it wasn't consensual. joshcryer Aug 2021 #167

I do not believe that she has ever said that her ptsd stemmed directly from gross abuse of power. femmedem Aug 2021 #172

That is a true distinction. joshcryer Aug 2021 #187

"Clinton was her third conquest." Exactly, and that actually Nixie Aug 2021 #180

One of the ex's made a memoir this past month... joshcryer Aug 2021 #188

I'm glad one of the spouses is stepping up and writing her side of things. Nixie Aug 2021 #195

third affair? I didn't pay super attention to the whole thing. I don't even remember... electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #221

proposition?... electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #126

I don't know about anyone else Grokenstein Aug 2021 #131

not your average action, but maybe that was influence from Linda Tripp electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #133

You've also probably never had sex with a President Polybius Aug 2021 #189

I agree with the "serious intellectual simpatico." betsuni Aug 2021 #141

Good for her. Captain Stern Aug 2021 #155

I don't think it was ever about Hillary. It was Bill and Monica making their own choices. jalan48 Aug 2021 #176

A 49 year-old married man ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #183

The majority of the posts on the tread are gross on a liberal site. Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2021 #191

Disgusting isn't it? ripcord Aug 2021 #208

who saves a semen-stained dress? bigtree Aug 2021 #220

Who slut shames? Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2021 #224

some anonymous posters? bigtree Aug 2021 #240

Poor Hillary has endured enough, but that's Bill's fault, not Monica's. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2021 #198

People forget that although Clinton was complicit, it was Lewinski that pursued him.... George II Aug 2021 #200

Supervisors do not engage sexual relations with underlings. Period wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #201

Nothing I said was addressed by you, including me saying CLINTON WAS COMPLICIT! Did you miss that? George II Aug 2021 #203

Your attempt to shift the blame was entirely noted wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #204

No one said they are allowed. Period. So what were you saying about "shifting"? George II Aug 2021 #205

You suggested Lewinsky shares at least half the blame for the affair wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #206

In what way did I say that? You're doing it again wellst0nev0ter, saying I said something I didn't. George II Aug 2021 #209

The president had an affair with an intern, BUT! wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #212

And, you did it again, wellst0nev0ter. George II Aug 2021 #213

Interesting. You've made four posts in the last 28 days, all four directed toward me. Wha? George II Aug 2021 #255

You really want to know the reason? wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #256

Sure. George II Aug 2021 #257

Okey-doke wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #258

I'm sure there is a lot about her life and perspective you don't understand. Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2021 #225

Lol, nice try! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #232

The treatment of Lewinsky was horrendous Azathoth Aug 2021 #202

How was she "exploited ruthlessly"? And "cut loose" is a reach. live love laugh Aug 2021 #252

Who cares? SoonerPride Aug 2021 #233

Guilty parties: Monica and Bill Jakes Progress Aug 2021 #234

She was never a decent person. I wouldn't expect that now. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #253

I just had a thought. Hillary-haters always called her too ambitious, conniving, weathervane, betsuni Aug 2021 #235

She might as well, everyone else has ... sigh. 🤔 nt Raine Aug 2021 #239

F THAT, Monica Lewinsky was put through hell & poor Hillary helped krawhitham Aug 2021 #241

What do you mean by "poor Hillary helped" put Monica through hell? betsuni Aug 2021 #249

That "poor Hillary" statement is crazy. Whores rule I guess. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #251

I doubt you will attempt to explain this stupid statement. Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #259

Good for Monica! budkin Aug 2021 #242