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Withywindle

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Sun Aug 29, 2021, 02:49 AM

Aug 2021

Slut-shaming to the extreme. Boys will be boys (even if they're over 50) but it's a woman's responsibility to put the brakes on, no matter how young and starstruck she may be.

I mean, Bill Clinton was an attractive and charismatic guy. Lot of other Gen X women I knew were like, "....yeah, I might've done it too."

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So Monica Lewinsky is cashing in [View all] samplegirl Aug 2021 OP

Ryan Murphy should probably stick to American Horror Story nt Shermann Aug 2021 #1

The first two seasons of American Crime were nothing short of fantastic dsc Aug 2021 #80

Yes, American Crime was excellent. mountain grammy Aug 2021 #222

Fanne Foxe would be proud bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #2

Wonder if they'll show the cigar trick. Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #3

I remember William Bennet was all aflutter. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #6

William Bennet. I forgot all about that sanctimonious twat. Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #12

Probably gambling DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #16

That was not a "first," it was a set of salacious smear questions Hortensis Aug 2021 #44

As well she should. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #4

Her entire life has been derailed by something stupid she did when she was 22. meadowlander Aug 2021 #9

Agreed. zuul Aug 2021 #40

Yeah but ahe doesn't need to continue to shame herself onetexan Aug 2021 #57

I can't watch it samplegirl Aug 2021 #77

Chelsea & her kids as well onetexan Aug 2021 #79

I'm going to go out on a limb and bet Hillary has LONG since moved on from that. Treefrog Aug 2021 #177

Bill could have not get involved, issue solved! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #96

Right; as if FORESIGHT is 20/20 onetexan Aug 2021 #106

These Monday morning QBs are silent on Trump's 43 victims. live love laugh Aug 2021 #128

Shame the Clintons? Treefrog Aug 2021 #168

Not anymore he doesn't. onetexan Aug 2021 #171

Neither does she. Treefrog Aug 2021 #175

Whatever. She dsn't seem to feel any shame but she shouldnt subject the clintons to. onetexan Aug 2021 #181

While that's true, remember that Clinton was not helpless in all this. CTyankee Aug 2021 #199

How is she shaming herself? Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #226

Hmm... Sur Zobra Aug 2021 #64

Yes, but this thread is about whether or not Monica Lewinsky has the right to talk about it meadowlander Aug 2021 #88

Like it or not her life IS defined by it. And will be. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #130

And that itself is a problem. Withywindle Aug 2021 #246

This wasn't just any fling ... some consequences live love laugh Aug 2021 #254

I apologize Sur Zobra Aug 2021 #238

I wouldn't call it 50/50 Zeitghost Aug 2021 #112

Some of us called it that at the time, and continue to do so. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #140

This! Treefrog Aug 2021 #178

yep Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #227

Agreed BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #143

Maybe it wasn't derailed at all. fescuerescue Aug 2021 #116

She was bullied and shamed in public for years to the point where she was suicidal, meadowlander Aug 2021 #129

She was an adult and made adult decisions fescuerescue Aug 2021 #162

She made millions in the immedaite aftermath of the scandal. joshcryer Aug 2021 #164

Thank you. AbnerBunny Aug 2021 #15

HELLO, DARLIN'!!! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #72

Sure is! AbnerBunny Aug 2021 #87

Mixed breed or what? Will we see pictures? tblue37 Aug 2021 #109

A puppy!?! YAY!!! A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #123

Agreed NQAS Aug 2021 #32

Nor would I. Plus the power differential made consent a gray area. femmedem Aug 2021 #46

The thong display says otherwise. nt pnwmom Aug 2021 #149

Yup! But he should have known better, too. electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #211

Sure. They were both stupid and selfish. pnwmom Aug 2021 #216

She was -not- his victim. Linda Tripp & Co are the villians here. electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #217

Young people are frequently horny Withywindle Aug 2021 #250

+1000! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #93

She and Bill committed adultery and hurt Hillary out of pure selfishness. pnwmom Aug 2021 #148

I agree a gazillion percent. Mossfern Aug 2021 #151

Yes, and it wasn't her first affair with a married man. betsuni Aug 2021 #153

Except Lewinsky has always tried cashing in on the scandal. joshcryer Aug 2021 #163

This 100% oasis Aug 2021 #210

+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #215

She was always reassuring. 'He would never cheat on you, Kate. He loves you so much." Percy Aug 2021 #236

Who? paleotn Aug 2021 #5

Broke ass bitch! samplegirl Aug 2021 #10

Wow. n/t demmiblue Aug 2021 #66

I do t think samplegirl Aug 2021 #81

Really? msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #71

I can't believe it still stands. demmiblue Aug 2021 #82

Sadly, I can. meadowlander Aug 2021 #89

I'm frankly astonished with these disgusting attacks on Lewinsky msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #165

Same poster has a rather interesting thread in the lounge right now. Treefrog Aug 2021 #182

Why do you feel the need to be so disgusting in the ways you refer to her? Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #121

Thank you. Treefrog Aug 2021 #173

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2021 #152

Nah, that she is not. Treefrog Aug 2021 #186

Guess sexist slurs are in vogue Lancero Aug 2021 #248

I have little sympathy for her, but even less for Linda Tripp. brush Aug 2021 #7

Well this proves how remorseful she is. live love laugh Aug 2021 #19

I heard her say Linda Tripp was the one who convinced her to save the dress. Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #27

Yeah, Tripp was the villain, a precursor of the scorched earth repugs of today. brush Aug 2021 #36

IMHO, Lucianne Goldberg was the mastermind. She "commissioned" oasis Aug 2021 #139

Oh...yeahhhh... Lucianne Goldberg. A name I haven't heard in a very long time, or remembered! electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #218

Tripp, a holdover from Poppa Bush's administration, made contact oasis Aug 2021 #230

No kidding! Forgot LG was a publisher. electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #231

Imagine being 48 years old riverwalker Aug 2021 #8

She contributed great ammo for Trump and other republicans milestogo Aug 2021 #23

A whole generation of media wannabees fescuerescue Aug 2021 #118

She pioneered controversy for fame and fortune. joshcryer Aug 2021 #166

This is not her only contribution to the world. AT ALL Withywindle Aug 2021 #244

I may take some flack for this but bottomofthehill Aug 2021 #11

First of all, I don't give a damn . That was Bill Clinton's private life so a big who cares. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #17

Your job is not your private life Sympthsical Aug 2021 #54

+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #61

+1 leftstreet Aug 2021 #68

Monica should have been fired for flashing her panties Nixie Aug 2021 #156

Well said! Treefrog Aug 2021 #179

Great reply. nt Celerity Aug 2021 #245

I agree with you. zuul Aug 2021 #37

+1 iemanja Aug 2021 #42

You are ok with me... multigraincracker Aug 2021 #48

No flack from me. I agree. femmedem Aug 2021 #50

I am 100% in agreement. n/t demmiblue Aug 2021 #55

Well said. Xavier Breath Aug 2021 #86

+1000 nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #97

I agree, but Linda Tripp and the rethugs are the ones who ecstatic Aug 2021 #105

Linda Tripp is human garbage. bottomofthehill Aug 2021 #108

Flack from me: You're right and you should say it Withywindle Aug 2021 #145

That was years ago...I doubt Hillary gives a damn. A big who cares. I won't watch it... Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #14

She won't be cashing in from me. Boomerproud Aug 2021 #18

. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #20

Yes it is good for her -- politically and financially. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #22

Why not make it work for her? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #24

Why should it work for her? She's not some innocent victim. live love laugh Aug 2021 #53

What's the real story, and how is she changing it? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #62

A clip from Arrested Development...... MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #30

I'm sure some RepubliQkkkan financier is footing the bill. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #21

Lol WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #25

That well-known radical, fire-breathing right-winger . . . uh . . . Ryan Murphy n/t Sympthsical Aug 2021 #90

Heh. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #95

Monica was dragged through the mud. She actually moved to Europe to get away Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #26

I'll go further... Arazi Aug 2021 #33

Her post-scandal life has been a constant Merry-Go-Round Grokenstein Aug 2021 #28

She inserts herself for attention then plays victim. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #127

I'm looking forward to the Donald Trump Stormy Daniels affair mini series edbermac Aug 2021 #29

Honestly though, Hillary could have divorced him sboatcar Aug 2021 #31

Maybe they love each other. Some married people do, even if their spouses are flawed. tblue37 Aug 2021 #110

I suspect they might have an "arrangement" Withywindle Aug 2021 #247

I am disgusted NQAS Aug 2021 #34

Unfortunately, it's utterly unsurprising. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #35

Yep. It's pretty mind-boggling. zuul Aug 2021 #39

+1000 FreeState Aug 2021 #47

Totally expected Doc Sportello Aug 2021 #51

A lot of people are two-faced. If it's somebody you hate, yeah! JanMichael Aug 2021 #60

Hillary herself once said, "He's a hard dog to keep on the porch." tblue37 Aug 2021 #111

I'm not surprised , to be honest. Disappointed, yes. Surprised, no. n/t demmiblue Aug 2021 #63

I am absolutely shocked to find people still attacking Monica Lewinsky and defending Bill Clinton greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #69

It's like people are living in an episode of Mad Men Sympthsical Aug 2021 #91

Me too renate Aug 2021 #75

It definitely exposes some people!! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #98

Party loyalty is more important to some people than good morals and decency SunImp Aug 2021 #138

Yeah, me too. yardwork Aug 2021 #132

THANK YOU FOR THIS Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #228

I really hate it when I see Democrats acting mean like Republicans. We are better than that! Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #38

Monica's life is ruined iemanja Aug 2021 #41

Surely she hasn't samplegirl Aug 2021 #78

... demmiblue Aug 2021 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author USALiberal Aug 2021 #104

Her skills? She gave a guy a blow job. It's not uncommon. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #114

I'm sick of the misogynist bullshit iemanja Aug 2021 #117

Yeah, finding these type posts appalling. Treefrog Aug 2021 #174

Can't think of a more boring subject Lettuce Be Aug 2021 #43

Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #99

How about a Netflix series on Ken Starr's attempt to cover up thucythucy Aug 2021 #45

All of this! And I would LOVE to see the "Ken Starr is a rape enabler" Netflix series. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #124

THAT I Would Watch ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #185

I've seen the ads, looks like some republicon sleaze shit spanone Aug 2021 #49

Sarc right? So much for radical feminism. JanMichael Aug 2021 #52

We live in a misogynist culture iemanja Aug 2021 #120

I figured out a few years ago that she had no regrets about the affair JI7 Aug 2021 #56

She seems like she's grown into a perfectly decent woman Sympthsical Aug 2021 #58

I wish her well and plan on watching. demmiblue Aug 2021 #59

I'm looking forward to watching this too. beaglelover Aug 2021 #73

The OJ season was fantastic as well dsc Aug 2021 #83

If you can, watch one episode Sympthsical Aug 2021 #94

I gotta admit. I didn't give 2 shits at the time (the whole circus that came after, not the loss of Carlitos Brigante Sep 2021 #260

+1000, me too! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #100

Also Clive Owen plays Bill Clinton iemanja Aug 2021 #207

Makes sense to me. David__77 Aug 2021 #65

Um, Monica Lewinsky deserves every cent greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #67

She can tell her side of the story. You know -- that freedom of speech thingy? left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #70

She should have divorced Bill's ass right after they left office msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #74

While I myself had trouble understanding why Hillary didn't iemanja Aug 2021 #197

This thread is toxic Politicub Aug 2021 #76

Sing it! Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #229

I have no idea how much she is making for this dsc Aug 2021 #85

Yes, thank you SkylineChili Aug 2021 #103

Great point about her thwarting Starr. And sadly, the sexism seems to be coming from women. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #115

Bill should have known better. Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #92

He was the most powerful man in the world at that time. He shudda just kept her out of the White CTyankee Aug 2021 #101

So true CTyankee! +1000! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #102

He was incredibly foolish getting involved with an intern with a crush. betsuni Aug 2021 #107

I'm sure she was thinking dreams of glory. But he could have put a stop to her advances early on. CTyankee Aug 2021 #158

One trick pony. kskiska Aug 2021 #113

I have a question, as a Gen Z person violasays Aug 2021 #119

See post 85 for answers to part of this. She was young, she was foolish. She had a Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #122

Thank you very much violasays Aug 2021 #134

What a load of nonsense iemanja Aug 2021 #125

This message was self-deleted by its author violasays Aug 2021 #135

Never mind violasays Aug 2021 #136

My, aren't you sensitive iemanja Aug 2021 #137

Lol, add me too! USALiberal Aug 2021 #160

I don't see anyone blaming her for a man's actions BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #142

What culpability? iemanja Aug 2021 #144

+1 Withywindle Aug 2021 #147

"She had sex with a married man. Do you consider all women who have done that culpable?" BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #190

You're intentionally misreading my point about the Cuomo women iemanja Aug 2021 #196

Sure, Jan. BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #214

Please show me iemanja Aug 2021 #223

Well said. Percy Aug 2021 #237

She has a sense of humor about it Withywindle Aug 2021 #146

So she can have a sense of humor about it but others cannot? BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #192

Well, yes! Withywindle Aug 2021 #243

+1000 USALiberal Aug 2021 #159

Perfect response! Treefrog Aug 2021 #184

She was the idiot who gave the President an eyeful of her thong underwear, pnwmom Aug 2021 #150

Lol, so bill couldn't control himself??? Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #161

She never changed her story about what happened but her interpretation has evolved as she's matured. femmedem Aug 2021 #154

The problem is she had a habit of engaging in affairs with married men. joshcryer Aug 2021 #169

If you choose to cheat on your spouse BoycottTimHortons Aug 2021 #193

How convenient for her. In the interim, the "power differential" theory has sprung up pnwmom Aug 2021 #170

Where did your peers ever get a narrative like that? eShirl Aug 2021 #157

That is what I was trying to ascertain violasays Aug 2021 #194

I don't think she has ever said or done anything that would lead Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #219

Lewinsky has never said it wasn't consensual. joshcryer Aug 2021 #167

I do not believe that she has ever said that her ptsd stemmed directly from gross abuse of power. femmedem Aug 2021 #172

That is a true distinction. joshcryer Aug 2021 #187

"Clinton was her third conquest." Exactly, and that actually Nixie Aug 2021 #180

One of the ex's made a memoir this past month... joshcryer Aug 2021 #188

I'm glad one of the spouses is stepping up and writing her side of things. Nixie Aug 2021 #195

third affair? I didn't pay super attention to the whole thing. I don't even remember... electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #221

proposition?... electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #126

I don't know about anyone else Grokenstein Aug 2021 #131

not your average action, but maybe that was influence from Linda Tripp electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #133

You've also probably never had sex with a President Polybius Aug 2021 #189

I agree with the "serious intellectual simpatico." betsuni Aug 2021 #141

Good for her. Captain Stern Aug 2021 #155

I don't think it was ever about Hillary. It was Bill and Monica making their own choices. jalan48 Aug 2021 #176

A 49 year-old married man ... left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #183

The majority of the posts on the tread are gross on a liberal site. Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2021 #191

Disgusting isn't it? ripcord Aug 2021 #208

who saves a semen-stained dress? bigtree Aug 2021 #220

Who slut shames? Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2021 #224

some anonymous posters? bigtree Aug 2021 #240

Poor Hillary has endured enough, but that's Bill's fault, not Monica's. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2021 #198

People forget that although Clinton was complicit, it was Lewinski that pursued him.... George II Aug 2021 #200

Supervisors do not engage sexual relations with underlings. Period wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #201

Nothing I said was addressed by you, including me saying CLINTON WAS COMPLICIT! Did you miss that? George II Aug 2021 #203

Your attempt to shift the blame was entirely noted wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #204

No one said they are allowed. Period. So what were you saying about "shifting"? George II Aug 2021 #205

You suggested Lewinsky shares at least half the blame for the affair wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #206

In what way did I say that? You're doing it again wellst0nev0ter, saying I said something I didn't. George II Aug 2021 #209

The president had an affair with an intern, BUT! wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #212

And, you did it again, wellst0nev0ter. George II Aug 2021 #213

Interesting. You've made four posts in the last 28 days, all four directed toward me. Wha? George II Aug 2021 #255

You really want to know the reason? wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #256

Sure. George II Aug 2021 #257

Okey-doke wellst0nev0ter Aug 2021 #258

I'm sure there is a lot about her life and perspective you don't understand. Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2021 #225

Lol, nice try! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #232

The treatment of Lewinsky was horrendous Azathoth Aug 2021 #202

How was she "exploited ruthlessly"? And "cut loose" is a reach. live love laugh Aug 2021 #252

Who cares? SoonerPride Aug 2021 #233

Guilty parties: Monica and Bill Jakes Progress Aug 2021 #234

She was never a decent person. I wouldn't expect that now. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #253

I just had a thought. Hillary-haters always called her too ambitious, conniving, weathervane, betsuni Aug 2021 #235

She might as well, everyone else has ... sigh. 🤔 nt Raine Aug 2021 #239

F THAT, Monica Lewinsky was put through hell & poor Hillary helped krawhitham Aug 2021 #241

What do you mean by "poor Hillary helped" put Monica through hell? betsuni Aug 2021 #249

That "poor Hillary" statement is crazy. Whores rule I guess. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #251

I doubt you will attempt to explain this stupid statement. Jakes Progress Sep 2021 #259

Good for Monica! budkin Aug 2021 #242