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DemocraticPatriot

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Mon Aug 30, 2021, 07:14 AM Aug 2021

Why are we so "dead-set" on re-opening all the schools? [View all]

Yes, things looked better a few months ago, and everyone was looking forward to "getting back to normal"... but the situation has changed radically-- with the super-infectious Delta variant running wild, and the vaccination program stalled (due to the refuse-niks).


In many areas of the country, this would seem to call for a change in the plan... Of course, the worst of the worst are ruled by what can only be described as "pro-covid Republican" governors, who seem intent on getting as many children AND adults infected as possible, but what about the rest?

All we have going for us if that something more than 50% of us have been vaccinated, but that is no longer as effective against this Delta variant-- and the children under 12 are not vaccinated at all, yet we are forcing them to congregate in confined indoor spaces again, with or without masks, whose effectiveness has always been limited anyway...

Back when this started, most (if not all?) of the schools were closed down very quickly, when the virus had only just begun to spread. Yet now, when there are many more active cases, hospitalizations, and over 600k deaths and climbing--- NOW we are forcing the children back into in-person covid factories? And many who get infected will bring the virus home to infect their unvaccinated (and some who have been vaccinated) parents...

Personally, I think it ought to be clear to most that this rush to re-open all the schools was a mistake. I thought it was a bad idea as soon as the Delta variant surfaced, and had my doubts about it before that. The pandemic was clearly not "over", although the situation did appear more hopeful (briefly) than it does now...

When you think about it, it seems clear to me that the "majority" who believe in science and masks and social distancing and vaccinations, have been "pushed" by the mask protesters and the anti-vaxxers and the politicians who were more worried about profits for their business backers than they were about public health-- into a pre-mature relaxation of precautions and a pre-mature full re-opening of schools as well as everything else. Even my own Governor Whitmer of Michigan, who mandated such strict protocols in the beginning of the pandemic, has declined to mandate masks for schools this fall.

(We are in better shape in Michigan vs. covid than many areas of the country, and I give full credit for that to our governor... but the cases are beginning to rise again, and it seems only a matter of time before things get bad again, with Delta even infecting a good number of vaccinated people who can then pass it on to others...Schools operating in-person with students under 12 unable to be vaccinated thus far, will only make the situation worse.)


I think that many schools are going to be forced to close down again, whether they like it or not, before this is over... and it seems to be FAR from over.




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Teachers go back tomorrow in my part of Maine. I'll be curious to see how we're all feeling, GPV Aug 2021 #1
Mainly so women can go back into the workforce Klaralven Aug 2021 #2
Yep. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #3
I think that's a significant factor. Our district Luciferous Aug 2021 #8
this is true irisblue Aug 2021 #27
This is going to be an unfortunate reality... MiHale Aug 2021 #4
The Cons won't care if children die Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #25
Because god forbid "the economy" takes a break. American capitalism doesn't work without free WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #5
1. The illusion of normalcy no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #6
Because for many kids, virtual school is a disaster Freddie Aug 2021 #7
I get that some kids have difficulty, but that needs to be weighed against possible death. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #10
For young children, the missed social interactions risks developmental problems Amishman Aug 2021 #13
Up until recently, most kids never set foot in a school till kindergarten, and many till first grade Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #16
I'm not disagreeing Tink41 Aug 2021 #30
Because education is critical frazzled Aug 2021 #9
The worst case scenario of a lost year or two of "rigorous education" would be to add a Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #11
Again, analysis suggests otherwise frazzled Aug 2021 #17
That doesn't take Delta into account. Nor does it take the risk to those who live with the children Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #19
The Delta has been here for several months frazzled Aug 2021 #24
The big ramp-up from Delta was in June. Kids were already out of school. This doesn't Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #26
Of course it takes delta into account Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #42
Well... the important thing here is that you are not annoyed. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #43
... sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #51
Thank you Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #53
Sorry, but you are the one ignoring equity. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #56
I work with Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #58
Last year Delta was not around. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #49
I know Mrs. Toad Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #54
The problem is that schools, by and large are not opening safely. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #55
The reality is Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #59
Safety has to come before education. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #61
Mortality rates for kids might be low Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #20
Point taken. However, all that rigorous schooling will be of no use DemocraticPatriot Aug 2021 #12
Just sent my kid off to school. Because I had to. CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #14
the "why" is easy. Chainfire Aug 2021 #15
It would seem Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #18
THIS! Things looked like this was a good idea before Delta. Now we have Delta. It's a bad idea. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #21
Yes! Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #22
Money. Iggo Aug 2021 #23
Bingo... Claire Oh Nette Aug 2021 #32
Did that nifty comedienne do a video on "How To Money"? sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #52
What about the parent's health when their children bring home Covid from school? liberal_mama Aug 2021 #28
Parents can get vaccinated today if they wanted to. former9thward Aug 2021 #50
Beginning of my third week in person AwakeAtLast Aug 2021 #29
New Mandate Here In Illinois ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #34
We have about 100 quarantined students AwakeAtLast Aug 2021 #36
Two Districts Where I Sub... ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #37
I'm in blood red Southern Illinois AwakeAtLast Aug 2021 #38
I Suspected As Much ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #39
Follow the money. Swede Aug 2021 #31
Because remote learning by most accounts was ineffective at best. MichMan Aug 2021 #33
For awhile, I was actually hopeful Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #35
Because Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #40
That's not what is happening... See my post below JCMach1 Aug 2021 #46
Vaccines for children will help keep them open andym Aug 2021 #41
As will masks. And people are fighting tooth and nail against mask mandates. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #44
My 11yo son (so no vaccine) has been directly exposed 6 out of 7 JCMach1 Aug 2021 #45
Now mommy will have to return to work whether she wants to or not. Plus cut off benefits... Hekate Aug 2021 #47
Some friends of mine have decided to permanently homeschool their Raine Aug 2021 #48
because mothers are tired of the little ones under foot all day scarytomcat Aug 2021 #57
Because people's brains have been rotted by social media propaganda. Initech Aug 2021 #60
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