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fescuerescue

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12. we pretty much have to live like the Amish

Reply to Binkie The Clown (Original post)

Mon Aug 30, 2021, 10:02 AM

Aug 2021

worldwide to get this solved. (not the religious part, but the energy use part)

and I doubt even anyone on this site wants to do that.

It'll happen though. After life changing catastrophically, that's exactly where the survivors will be.

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Why the human race will never solve the climate crisis. [View all] Binkie The Clown Aug 2021 OP

So your view is that we can only deal with one issue at a time? brooklynite Aug 2021 #1

Right? CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #6

More to the point, since we don't all agree that COVID is most important... brooklynite Aug 2021 #15

We don't see much evidence of people walking and chewing gun at the same time Kaleva Aug 2021 #35

I am equally pessimistic genxlib Aug 2021 #2

Elysium DanieRains Aug 2021 #3

Greed, and the stupid it fosters, will prevent any significant action on climate change. Roisin Ni Fiachra Aug 2021 #4

Of course humans will solve it. CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #5

Water, wind, and fire... ananda Aug 2021 #7

All you need to do is convert a system sourcing 160,000 billion KWhr / year to something else Klaralven Aug 2021 #8

Easy, peasy!! Xoan Aug 2021 #17

Amusingly, your own link lays out plans on how to do that. Pity that the issue is... Lancero Aug 2021 #38

People with lots of money make the decisions Chainfire Aug 2021 #9

Greed is one reason. marie999 Aug 2021 #10

Reflections Of A Late Middle Age Man modrepub Aug 2021 #11

we pretty much have to live like the Amish fescuerescue Aug 2021 #12

A net zero lifestyle isn't something most here would want. Kaleva Aug 2021 #34

They're not perfect, but the Amish use resources like diesel and gas. Niagara Aug 2021 #43

The climate crisis will solve humans. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #13

Cheap sources of hydrocarbons will exhaust before climate change becomes the limiting factor Klaralven Aug 2021 #18

That's way outside mainstream scientific thinking. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #19

Interesting ... dumbcat Aug 2021 #22

Before there was the IPCC there was the Club of Rome and "Limits to Growth" Klaralven Aug 2021 #37

"Once, in the past, somebody was wrong. Therefore everybody is always wrong." Binkie The Clown Aug 2021 #39

Actually, in the past the Club of Rome was right, and "Limits to Growth" has been vindicated. Klaralven Aug 2021 #41

I view voting rights as more important Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #14

Voting rights are critically important. Nothing can be solved without fixing that. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #16

Exactly! Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #21

If the U.S. could solve the problem unilaterally, then you might be right. But it's a global problem Binkie The Clown Aug 2021 #40

The US can't fix climate alone, but we sure can break it alone. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #44

Neither party seems focused on preparing the citizens to adapt. Kaleva Aug 2021 #36

The obvious solution is nuclear power. hunter Aug 2021 #20

Not many here are promoting fossil fuels. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #23

What better storage? hunter Aug 2021 #24

Multiple storage options are coming online or in development. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #25

Nuclear is much more suitable than the current alternatives cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #26

False dichotomy. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #27

Iceland (which I have been to multiple times) is a micro-state with extraordinarily unique Celerity Aug 2021 #31

Iceland has geothermal which provides energy 24/7 Kaleva Aug 2021 #33

The EROI (energy return on investment) for renewables is very poor versus nuclear Celerity Aug 2021 #28

Exactly, we must open our minds to nuclear. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #29

Could you image if we had an Apollo-like program for Nuclear Power 2.0 starting in the mid-2000s? Steelrolled Aug 2021 #42

Deep greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #30

We also have an endless amount of Fake Doctors, Scientists, Professors, Politicians, etc who keep SunImp Aug 2021 #32