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Kid Berwyn

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42. Gen. Sen. Goldwater knew about Pat Robertson, tha chicken livered liquor officer.
Fri Sep 3, 2021, 10:46 AM
Sep 2021
THE LIQUOR OFFICER

Or PAT ROBERTSON GOES TO WAR


EXCERPT...

Robertson had sailed for Korea in January, 1951, as a new young Second Lieutenant fresh out of Quantico's 11 week basic platoon leader training course. With him was his friend and classmate from Washington and Lee, Ed Gaines. The First Marine Division had taken fearful casualties at the Chosin Reservoir in December when the Chinese had entered this war with a vengeance; new second lieutenants were needed badly and the rumored life expectancy of platoon leaders in combat was only six minutes. Robertson was one of 71 officers and 1900 enlisted men in the Fifth Replacement Draft aboard the U.S.S. General J. C. Breckenridge. The full draft was needed to bring the Divisions' three rifle regiments up to strength for General MacArthur's planned February counter-attack against the Chinese. On the last day before leaving for Korea, however, Robertson and Gaines had been pulled off the ship in Kobe, Japan, with four others whose names had the misfortune to be listed next to Gaines on the roster of lieutenants assigned to the 7th Regiment. The reason: ostensibly to train young Marines coming out of the hospitals after the Chosin Reservoir battle.

Both the First Marine Division personnel office and those officers aboard the Breckenridge who had had combat duty were offended. Captain Harry Steinmeyer, a decorated veteran of Guadalcanal wrote on February 14, 1951:

"Happy Valentines: Here's one I have to tell you. Lt. Gaines & a Lt. Robinson (Whose Father is Senator from Va) were taken off in Japan. In short there were 80 men and 8 2nd Lts pulled on the pretense of training men who came from Korea to go back there. Gaines slipped 2 days before we got to Japan and said he & the other one were going to be pulled off there. It's really rotten politics. I'd sure like to write Winchell on it. See what Walter & Daddy say about that. At least I can live with my conscience. Well so much for that"

First Lieutenant David Hartstein, the Draft's adjutant, wrote his wife the same day:

"Hi There Valentine: Oh yes, there is one thing I wanted to tell you about. When we were in Kobe yesterday a Col. came aboard to choose several officers to retrain casualties that were getting ready to 90 back to Korea. He chose 6 second Lts. none of whom have ever had any combat. Its interesting to note that two of them had said they wouldn't have to go to Korea. One was the Robertson that General Sheppard wanted to see and I'm sure that his father being the Senator from Virginia had nothing to do with it and the other was a kid named Gaines whose father is president of Washington and Lee university. it is interesting though isn't it. See that's what you get when you choose the wrong parents. Incidentally they are both very nice guys but no more anxious to go than the rest of us."

What had caused this extraordinary salvation? As the trial date of March 8, 1988 approached, Robertson found himself in an increasing dilemma. He had shocked the Republicans by strong second place finishes, in Iowa., South Dakota and Minnesota; he had nearly won Michigan, and expected to win South Carolina on Saturday, March 5. March 8, "Super Tuesday" with its 22 separate primaries, was expected to provide perhaps even a majority of delegates in the bible belt states where from whence came Robertson's strongest support. His lawsuit had suppressed any media comment on his alleged "liquor officer" background.

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(Original Link, now bad) http://www.schlatter.org/liquor_officer.htm

Via Waybac: https://web.archive.org/web/20120205005545/http://www.schlatter.org/liquor_officer.htm

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WOWW, just adds perspective to FalloutShelter Sep 2021 #1
Barry Goldwater Could Never Be A Republican Today COL Mustard Sep 2021 #5
All true! FalloutShelter Sep 2021 #7
Ditto! Dreampuff Sep 2021 #15
Considering Goldwater died in 1998, I doubt he knew anything about Palin AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #20
Gen. Sen. Goldwater knew about Pat Robertson, tha chicken livered liquor officer. Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #42
What does that have to do with the OP's statement that when McCain picked Palin in 2008 AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #46
Pat Robertson almost became the GOP nominee in 1988. Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #53
That's not what the OP said drmeow Sep 2021 #56
Cheney and Bush don't even qualify by today's GOP standards. world wide wally Sep 2021 #21
nor would ronald raygun , even they claim to adore him AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #27
he supported allowing gay soldiers to serve prodigitalson Sep 2021 #51
Barry Goldwater was a stubborn son-of-a-bitch. But he wasn't stupid or crazy. Aristus Sep 2021 #2
Goldwater was not the hardcore right winger some people think he was Clash City Rocker Sep 2021 #3
re homosexualityhe said something "They don't have to be straight, they just have to shoot straight SharonAnn Sep 2021 #26
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Love this, and that's it exactly......🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Sep 2021 #6
Mr Lake liked Barry and he's a pretty liberal guy. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #8
Wasn't soldierant Sep 2021 #18
Point! LakeArenal Sep 2021 #19
Goldwater was more of a Libertarian than Republican. Mosby Sep 2021 #9
Exactly. Boomerproud Sep 2021 #17
These people are that damn nuts.... paleotn Sep 2021 #10
Barry wouldn't make it out of a primary today. Nixon either. Or Dole, or Ryan or.... Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #11
I wonder when, exactly, he said this. Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #12
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He spoke out on this later in his career. Yoyoyo77 Sep 2021 #25
Pretty sure he was talking about the Republican Party cannabis_flower Sep 2021 #30
Thanks, Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #31
We aren't actually dealing with the Republican Party Dreampuff Sep 2021 #13
They believe in the rapture, so yeah, we can't reason with them. Jon King Sep 2021 #14
hate this ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #16
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When Goldwater's daughter, Joanne, found that she was pregnant a month or so after Equomba Sep 2021 #33
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K&R UTUSN Sep 2021 #35
A Goldwater saga involving an acquaintance: PCIntern Sep 2021 #36
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Goldwater, Nixon, Buckley. If they were running today, they'd probably be primaried. BobTheSubgenius Sep 2021 #44
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According to John Dean's book... Grins Sep 2021 #50
Jerry Falwell Sr videohead5 Sep 2021 #52
POWER toughtony Sep 2021 #54
It's so ironic. ShazzieB Sep 2021 #55
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