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hlthe2b

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44. No, the data don't support it. That is the issue. A correlation between white women voting for Trump

Mon Sep 6, 2021, 09:54 AM

Sep 2021

in Texas IS VALID. A causal association with those same women supporting repeal of Roe V Wade is absolutely not supported by the data and can no more be concluded from the first correlation than to conclude apples = oranges.

That white race (and fundamentalist religious beliefs ) are associated with the likelihood of support of Roe v Wade overturn AMONG MALE REPUBLICANS, especially Trump-supporting Male White Republicans, IS supported by the data from other polls.

Do some white female Texas Trump supporters call for overturning Roe V Wade like Amy Coney Barrett? Yes, certainly. The majority? No data supports that. No more than the Candace Owens, Diamond and Silk, and other Trump-supporting black women who back the overturn represent most black women.

It matters. Truth and facts matter. This isn't a race issue. It is a WOMAN SUBJUGATION issue.

Frank Schaeffer is absolutely right on this:

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As an activist for Demcratic politics I think you know better.

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We should remember that white women in Texas very likely support this law [View all] Kaleva Sep 2021 OP

that's one hell of a broad stroke you are painting. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #1

Looks like facts to me. nt BlueLucy Sep 2021 #2

Even Republicans don't fully support this, much less Republican women per recent polling hlthe2b Sep 2021 #6

That appears to be nationwide. Does it break it down by state? Kaleva Sep 2021 #12

Do some research of your own. There are plenty of polls out there and I am at work. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #13

You made the claim,. It's up to you to work to find sources to support it. Kaleva Sep 2021 #25

NO YOU made the claim that white women R who voted for Trump support overturn of ROE v WADE hlthe2b Sep 2021 #31

+1 n/t area51 Sep 2021 #43

Wait. Who made the claim now? n/t kcr Sep 2021 #34

If you have evidence that the white women who voted for TFG support Roe v. Wade, I'd like to see it Kaleva Sep 2021 #7

I just posted data from a May-June, 2021 NPR poll. My post #6 Only 31 % of R's overall support hlthe2b Sep 2021 #8

Arrrrrggggghhhhhhh! It doesn't "EFFIN" matter! maxrandb Sep 2021 #45

They don't care is a good guess treestar Sep 2021 #60

That is not necessarily true. Many women thought Roe was settled law...and it was not a voting Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #3

Scotus and a woman's right to choose was a big issue in 2016. Kaleva Sep 2021 #10

And, I posted a May-June, 2021 NPR poll (and there are others) showing only 31% of R's hlthe2b Sep 2021 #11

Nope, the courts were not to those who sabataged the election of Clinton. I talked to white weomen Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #35

And this is why Dems lose maxrandb Sep 2021 #46

I don't disagree. But hopefully the Texas law is Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #51

every white woman in texas i know is against the law rdking647 Sep 2021 #4

What does every white woman you know who voted for TFG say about the law then? Kaleva Sep 2021 #22

How many of the white women you know voted for Trump? NT enough Sep 2021 #28

Some most likely do. Many don't I'm willing to bet. brush Sep 2021 #5

Not a majority... stillcool Sep 2021 #9

Broad brush. Also -- until they personally need it. Hekate Sep 2021 #14

I find it offensive bringing in race as well. The data do NOT support that even white R women hlthe2b Sep 2021 #15

What I found interesting a number of years ago was that when put to a ballot of voters... Hekate Sep 2021 #17

I assume the second part of your statement was not directed at me.. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #18

Nope, not directed at you -- should have made it clear (and will) Hekate Sep 2021 #24

What I find divisive toward women maxrandb Sep 2021 #48

Yes. Me too. But you know who overwhelming votes RETRUMPLICAN? MEN hlthe2b Sep 2021 #50

So all we white women deserve this, I suppose. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #16

This is a male dominance issue in Texas--trying to control women in every way possible. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #19

That's the point maxrandb Sep 2021 #49

Sure, max. That's exactly what I was saying. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #52

Disgusting right? And instead of blaming the Texas Legislature (almost all men) someone has Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #53

Your percentages on who supports Trump treestar Sep 2021 #20

Who in their right mind votes for TFG but supports a women's right to choose? Kaleva Sep 2021 #23

What LGBTQ or POC supports equality for all, but votes for TFG? In same way, apparently quite a few hlthe2b Sep 2021 #32

There does not have to be consistency on issues treestar Sep 2021 #59

Reminds me of my college days Piasladic Sep 2021 #21

White women are some of the strongest and most insidious tools of white supremacy. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #26

Clarence thomas is the black male who was the deciding vote to end roe's protection questionseverything Sep 2021 #37

None of which changes what I said, but okay. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #38

Shhh..Don't you know that calling white women "white women" is racist? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #41

And not only that, talking about their role is white supremacy hurts their feelers! WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #42

No, the data don't support it. That is the issue. A correlation between white women voting for Trump hlthe2b Sep 2021 #44

We can agree to disagree on that. Without the votes for all women in 2020, Biden would Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #54

I'm not talking about voting or party politics. I'm talking about the role of white women WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #58

Don't we already know that, as a class, white women have a clear options that OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #27

Accurate Data; Flawed Conclusion ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #29

I'm going by the argument that voting for TFG put SCOTUS and thus Roe v. Wade in jeopardy. Kaleva Sep 2021 #57

The white male vote for Trump is enormous. Any ideas on cutting it down? delisen Sep 2021 #30

This statement isn't accurate dsc Sep 2021 #33

Wait until their ex or "the other woman" takes action against them ...nt joetheman Sep 2021 #36

Cool... when their teen daughters get knocked up, ecstatic Sep 2021 #39

As I point out above your 85% figure is wrong dsc Sep 2021 #40

You may be correct. Edited the OP to delete that. Kaleva Sep 2021 #55

I really don't give a shit what white women say about this issue when polled. dawg Sep 2021 #47

Well half don't vote for Republicans so perhaps the name calling should stop...and by the way, Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #56

Serena Joys and Aunt Lydias Deep State Witch Sep 2021 #61