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32. One gun at home is not an issue to me. A bunch of gunz and body armor is someone gearing up

Reply to Demsrule86 (Reply #30)

Mon Sep 6, 2021, 10:53 AM

Sep 2021

for urban warfare and to "take their country back."

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Wide Spread Availability of Guns is Awful: New Amendment Needed! [View all] Stuart G Sep 2021 OP

Needed or not, there is far too much opposition. It is difficult to deal with urban... TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #1

Even if there is "opposition"...A proposal is needed. With a proposal we will get a "discussion". Stuart G Sep 2021 #2

Various things have been proposed, but get knocked down every time.... TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #3

And what is the "proposal" that should start this discussion? onenote Sep 2021 #4

Well written proposal.....somehow limits the reason to purchase a gun.. Stuart G Sep 2021 #6

You'd think that if there is gun-related Constitutional Amendment that will get 75 percent support onenote Sep 2021 #12

We will not pass an amendment. It is simply not possible. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #24

75%? I don't think there is ANYTHING that 75% of the population is in favor of. fescuerescue Sep 2021 #36

Link to the poll that 75% support Polybius Sep 2021 #70

I am sure this court will go alone with that. LiberatedUSA Sep 2021 #5

Will the "proposed amendment" however written..if enacted, save lives?...Think about that one.. Stuart G Sep 2021 #7

Constitutional Amendments Are Almost Impossible to Make Happen MineralMan Sep 2021 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #9

All you need is 2/3rds of both the House and Senate, followed by approval in 38 out of 50 states. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #10

If only gunners would change their attitude about their love for lethal weapons, body armor, etc. Hoyt Sep 2021 #14

The vast majority of gun owners aren't "gunners", if I understand your use of that odd term Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #15

If they are against reasonable gun legislation, "gunners" is pretty mild, Hero. Hoyt Sep 2021 #16

What term would you prefer? Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #17

You would be hard pressed to find a single cop in OK who would enforce a gun law or amendment. Runningdawg Sep 2021 #11

Less than two years ago my cousin was killed. Igel Sep 2021 #13

In that story the suspect had a clean criminal record madville Sep 2021 #18

Owning a bunch of guns and body armor ought to be grounds for investigation, IMO. Hoyt Sep 2021 #19

He could have killed them exactly the same with one gun and no armor NickB79 Sep 2021 #20

Yeah, but gun-humpers are most likely to be GOPers, racists, rubes, etc. Hoyt Sep 2021 #21

I have owned a gun in the past when I lived out in the middle of nowhere...and it saved my life Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #30

One gun at home is not an issue to me. A bunch of gunz and body armor is someone gearing up Hoyt Sep 2021 #32

I own multiple firearms and body armor, and yet I have no plans to attempt an insurrection Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #34

I've heard that from other gunners. Sorry, I don't buy it. Even if you are the most Hoyt Sep 2021 #35

Well, I can certainly understand why you'd be sensitive about robbers being shot and killed. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #41

Thanks Hero, but maybe if some gunner hadn't sold it to the potential robber or left it in their Hoyt Sep 2021 #42

The shooter was an honorably discharged marine without a criminal history. How would you Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #52

So were Timothy McVeigh, Randy Weaver, a bunch of mass shooters, honorably Hoyt Sep 2021 #54

Yet in this very thread you have supported such individuals having the right to possess firearms. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #55

Hero, I get you profit off gunz, feel the need for body armor, your Hoyt Sep 2021 #56

My user name is that of a silly 1960's comic book. I've told you this numerous times. Are you Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #68

What do you need body armor for? Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #38

I have no particular need for it, I just thought it was cool. I buy lots of things that I think are Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #40

I think body armor should be outlawed except for law enforcement and no one needs Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #43

I don't, and body armor is legal virtually everywhere in the US. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #53

Lots of deplorable things are legal, Hero. Hoyt Sep 2021 #57

Something being deplorable (a rather debatable term in this context) should not, in and of itself, Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #66

Stick with that, Hero. Hoyt Sep 2021 #67

I intend to, given that it makes sense. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #69

I had a pistol, rifle and a shotgun. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #37

Good Lord, if I shot every stranger I've ever met in my house... hunter Sep 2021 #50

Then pass federal red flag laws NickB79 Sep 2021 #47

Problem is a bunch of gunz, body armor, etc., are a red flag, Nick. Hoyt Sep 2021 #48

Red flag laws allow concerned family to call police and get a judge's intervention NickB79 Sep 2021 #49

Know what RF laws are, but gun-humpers with body armor are a red flag and they should be surveilled. Hoyt Sep 2021 #51

You want to investigate millions of people for owning perfectly legal items? Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #27

Yeah, Hero, surveillance of people attracted to lethal weapons, body armor, etc., for urban warfare. Hoyt Sep 2021 #28

Let's say for argument's sake that 10 million people fit your criteria. What exactly do you propose? Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #33

You vastly underestimate the complexity of the issue. Straw Man Sep 2021 #22

What about making this a referendum item on state ballots instead? smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #23

Oh sure, we have a 6-3 court who will rule such laws unconstitutional. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #25

So we increase the number of SC justices and let Biden appoint them. smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #26

We don't have the votes...the math is the math. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #29

There's never going to be more than 9, at least not in the next 75 years Polybius Sep 2021 #71

No state can overrule the 2nd amendment...perhaps we could figure out more useful ways to Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #31

A few hundred well placed buckets of fake blood might drive the gun fetishists underground. hunter Sep 2021 #39

That is not a bad idea... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #44

I think many would welcome the conflict. fescuerescue Sep 2021 #45

I've beat guys with guns. hunter Sep 2021 #46

Why do you think that cops and soldiers use them? fescuerescue Sep 2021 #59

I'm not "wringing my hands." hunter Sep 2021 #60

If those dangerous fools do obtain guns fescuerescue Sep 2021 #62

So what would your "needed" amendment say? SYFROYH Sep 2021 #58

Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. onenote Sep 2021 #74

Much more practical to expand SCROTUS, then accurately interpret the 2nd Amendment. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #61

Whatever works the fastest is the best course of action in my opinion... Stuart G Sep 2021 #63

There is no "1st clause" EX500rider Sep 2021 #64

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #65

The last part is less confusing Polybius Sep 2021 #72

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However.. EX500rider Sep 2021 #75

Guns appear to have become a religion for some. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #76

No Polybius Sep 2021 #77