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NickB79

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49. Red flag laws allow concerned family to call police and get a judge's intervention

Mon Sep 6, 2021, 10:01 PM

Sep 2021

Instead of trying to use police to randomly investigate tens of millions of Americans, most of which haven't broken any laws, leaving police impotent to act.

How many tens of thousands of extra police do you want to hire, along with billions in new funding?

If you can't get federal red flag laws passed, you don't have a chance in hell of getting those extra officers for anti-gun policing.

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Wide Spread Availability of Guns is Awful: New Amendment Needed! [View all] Stuart G Sep 2021 OP

Needed or not, there is far too much opposition. It is difficult to deal with urban... TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #1

Even if there is "opposition"...A proposal is needed. With a proposal we will get a "discussion". Stuart G Sep 2021 #2

Various things have been proposed, but get knocked down every time.... TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #3

And what is the "proposal" that should start this discussion? onenote Sep 2021 #4

Well written proposal.....somehow limits the reason to purchase a gun.. Stuart G Sep 2021 #6

You'd think that if there is gun-related Constitutional Amendment that will get 75 percent support onenote Sep 2021 #12

We will not pass an amendment. It is simply not possible. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #24

75%? I don't think there is ANYTHING that 75% of the population is in favor of. fescuerescue Sep 2021 #36

Link to the poll that 75% support Polybius Sep 2021 #70

I am sure this court will go alone with that. LiberatedUSA Sep 2021 #5

Will the "proposed amendment" however written..if enacted, save lives?...Think about that one.. Stuart G Sep 2021 #7

Constitutional Amendments Are Almost Impossible to Make Happen MineralMan Sep 2021 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #9

All you need is 2/3rds of both the House and Senate, followed by approval in 38 out of 50 states. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #10

If only gunners would change their attitude about their love for lethal weapons, body armor, etc. Hoyt Sep 2021 #14

The vast majority of gun owners aren't "gunners", if I understand your use of that odd term Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #15

If they are against reasonable gun legislation, "gunners" is pretty mild, Hero. Hoyt Sep 2021 #16

What term would you prefer? Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #17

You would be hard pressed to find a single cop in OK who would enforce a gun law or amendment. Runningdawg Sep 2021 #11

Less than two years ago my cousin was killed. Igel Sep 2021 #13

In that story the suspect had a clean criminal record madville Sep 2021 #18

Owning a bunch of guns and body armor ought to be grounds for investigation, IMO. Hoyt Sep 2021 #19

He could have killed them exactly the same with one gun and no armor NickB79 Sep 2021 #20

Yeah, but gun-humpers are most likely to be GOPers, racists, rubes, etc. Hoyt Sep 2021 #21

I have owned a gun in the past when I lived out in the middle of nowhere...and it saved my life Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #30

One gun at home is not an issue to me. A bunch of gunz and body armor is someone gearing up Hoyt Sep 2021 #32

I own multiple firearms and body armor, and yet I have no plans to attempt an insurrection Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #34

I've heard that from other gunners. Sorry, I don't buy it. Even if you are the most Hoyt Sep 2021 #35

Well, I can certainly understand why you'd be sensitive about robbers being shot and killed. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #41

Thanks Hero, but maybe if some gunner hadn't sold it to the potential robber or left it in their Hoyt Sep 2021 #42

The shooter was an honorably discharged marine without a criminal history. How would you Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #52

So were Timothy McVeigh, Randy Weaver, a bunch of mass shooters, honorably Hoyt Sep 2021 #54

Yet in this very thread you have supported such individuals having the right to possess firearms. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #55

Hero, I get you profit off gunz, feel the need for body armor, your Hoyt Sep 2021 #56

My user name is that of a silly 1960's comic book. I've told you this numerous times. Are you Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #68

What do you need body armor for? Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #38

I have no particular need for it, I just thought it was cool. I buy lots of things that I think are Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #40

I think body armor should be outlawed except for law enforcement and no one needs Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #43

I don't, and body armor is legal virtually everywhere in the US. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #53

Lots of deplorable things are legal, Hero. Hoyt Sep 2021 #57

Something being deplorable (a rather debatable term in this context) should not, in and of itself, Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #66

Stick with that, Hero. Hoyt Sep 2021 #67

I intend to, given that it makes sense. Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #69

I had a pistol, rifle and a shotgun. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #37

Good Lord, if I shot every stranger I've ever met in my house... hunter Sep 2021 #50

Then pass federal red flag laws NickB79 Sep 2021 #47

Problem is a bunch of gunz, body armor, etc., are a red flag, Nick. Hoyt Sep 2021 #48

Red flag laws allow concerned family to call police and get a judge's intervention NickB79 Sep 2021 #49

Know what RF laws are, but gun-humpers with body armor are a red flag and they should be surveilled. Hoyt Sep 2021 #51

You want to investigate millions of people for owning perfectly legal items? Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #27

Yeah, Hero, surveillance of people attracted to lethal weapons, body armor, etc., for urban warfare. Hoyt Sep 2021 #28

Let's say for argument's sake that 10 million people fit your criteria. What exactly do you propose? Dial H For Hero Sep 2021 #33

You vastly underestimate the complexity of the issue. Straw Man Sep 2021 #22

What about making this a referendum item on state ballots instead? smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #23

Oh sure, we have a 6-3 court who will rule such laws unconstitutional. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #25

So we increase the number of SC justices and let Biden appoint them. smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #26

We don't have the votes...the math is the math. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #29

There's never going to be more than 9, at least not in the next 75 years Polybius Sep 2021 #71

No state can overrule the 2nd amendment...perhaps we could figure out more useful ways to Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #31

A few hundred well placed buckets of fake blood might drive the gun fetishists underground. hunter Sep 2021 #39

That is not a bad idea... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #44

I think many would welcome the conflict. fescuerescue Sep 2021 #45

I've beat guys with guns. hunter Sep 2021 #46

Why do you think that cops and soldiers use them? fescuerescue Sep 2021 #59

I'm not "wringing my hands." hunter Sep 2021 #60

If those dangerous fools do obtain guns fescuerescue Sep 2021 #62

So what would your "needed" amendment say? SYFROYH Sep 2021 #58

Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer. onenote Sep 2021 #74

Much more practical to expand SCROTUS, then accurately interpret the 2nd Amendment. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #61

Whatever works the fastest is the best course of action in my opinion... Stuart G Sep 2021 #63

There is no "1st clause" EX500rider Sep 2021 #64

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #65

The last part is less confusing Polybius Sep 2021 #72

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However.. EX500rider Sep 2021 #75

Guns appear to have become a religion for some. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #76

No Polybius Sep 2021 #77