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114. I did and Dream Girl has a point. The main issue here is not about

Tue Sep 7, 2021, 01:46 PM

Sep 2021

abortion clinics being under attack. It is about legitimizing vigilante anti abortion lunatics, and it is about eliminating women's access to abortions after a date 6 weeks after their last period. (All the articles get this point wrong. It is not 6 weeks into a pregnancy. It is 6 weeks after the last period. Which essentially means women just aren't able to get abortions at all.)

The remedy proposed is not a remedy for the worst provisions of this law. And the article details the fact that the response to those worst provisions is that we are looking into maybe doing something sometime if we can. That really is not good enough.

And to those arguing that it is unreasonable to complain about a lack of government response so soon after the law passed, this law has been in the works for months. There should have been a response queued up and ready to go. There are women who are pregnant now and can't wait for us to get our acts together.

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Breaking: AG Garland announces DOJ will protect women seeking an abortion in Texas [View all] StarfishSaver Sep 2021 OP

Get thee to the greatest page malaise Sep 2021 #1

For those that can't access the article MiniMe Sep 2021 #2

TY for posting. Damn paywalls.... 634-5789 Sep 2021 #84

Good to hear. W_HAMILTON Sep 2021 #3

I can't believe we're watching Democrats here claim that violence isn't an issue for women in Texas StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #48

+1000 PortTack Sep 2021 #63

Right a good test would be after Garland & a couple marshals escort a woman into a clinic Captain Zero Sep 2021 #106

Legislation is violence C_U_L8R Sep 2021 #4

yes Kittycatkat Sep 2021 #45

Glad to see this! hamsterjill Sep 2021 #5

Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2021 #6

I don't see how this is a solution. No one is physically blocking entrance to clinics. The federal Dream Girl Sep 2021 #7

Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #10

It looks like auto-correct caught up with you TexasTowelie Sep 2021 #15

I'm quite sure that the Attorney General has a better understanding of federal law than you do StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #18

From what I've read and seen over the years, Merrick Garland has a brilliant legal mind. He knows... George II Sep 2021 #53

Lots of people here differ with you - and they surely know better StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #58

I posted that because I was hoping so someone help me understathis would work against the Dream Girl Sep 2021 #76

I'm glad to see you've changed your tune. StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #77

The nuns in my grammar school used to talk to us just like this. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #125

I understand why StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #127

I think I understand what you are trying to say. Yes women should be protected from violence. totodeinhere Sep 2021 #41

This is one (important) law among many that we have. It is not the only law in the Politicub Sep 2021 #59

But obviously, Biden and DOJ aren't responding quickly or well enough for the armchair experts StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #61

"Do that thing! That justice thing you should be doing but are not." Politicub Sep 2021 #68

Nailed It! StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #70

Did you even read the article??? USALiberal Sep 2021 #62

I did and Dream Girl has a point. The main issue here is not about Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #114

Since Garland never claimed this s a "remedy," you're knocking down a atrawman StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #118

It doesn't address the issues in this law. We should stop pretending that it does. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #120

Garland didn't say this addressed the Texas law and neither did I StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #122

So it doesn't address the Texas law, but he is announcing in the wake of the passage of the Texas Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #123

I'd hardly describe issuing.a written statement as "great fanfare." StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #126

I totally agree with you and I find the patronizing responses to your Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #115

Excellent ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #8

I wish we had a woman for attorney general. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #9

He certainly appears to be the wrong man for the job. comradebillyboy Sep 2021 #13

He strikes me as milquetoast. But I guess you don't have to show littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #20

He looks as lost as Mueller. kairos12 Sep 2021 #23

Yeah, totally get that. And agree. calimary Sep 2021 #33

Good to hear. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #11

And now people have jumped into this thread to insist that this isn't good enough StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #24

Maybe what's operating here is a notion of how the GOP is utterly MASTERFUL at thinking around calimary Sep 2021 #44

Interesting StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #46

It's been abundantly clear. Snackshack Sep 2021 #72

'Repugs are good at getting bad things done; Dems are bad at getting good things done.' LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2021 #88

Or, maybe, its because the announcement he made doesn't change a damn thing and doesn't Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Sep 2021 #12

The women aren't in trouble and don't need protection. It's their helpers Arazi Sep 2021 #14

Please cite what federal statute DOJ SHOULD be using StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #43

"As the agency explores ways to challenge the law" is bullshit Arazi Sep 2021 #96

In other words, you have no idea what they can do right now StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #97

The law will become fact within the next 10 days Arazi Sep 2021 #98

Why do you assume "DOJ can't articulate a response"? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #100

Just give 'em time on the "the women aren't in trouble" part. calimary Sep 2021 #130

When is he gonna announce ejbr Sep 2021 #16

This has what to do with abortion in Texas exactly? AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #17

The "Garland's not doing squat" crowd gets really pissed whenever they're proven wrong StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #19

I will be ecstatic ejbr Sep 2021 #22

I don't know about you, but I'm sure many of the people who reacted as you do won't be "ecstatic" StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #26

They exist, I'm sure ejbr Sep 2021 #35

It has to do ejbr Sep 2021 #21

Actually, it has more to do with people who haven't a clue how government or federal law or DOJ work StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #25

I am drawing these conclusions ejbr Sep 2021 #28

Oh ok AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #31

I think they're referring to a former federal prosecutor who now makes their living as a pundit StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #34

Is it that one who said we need to nationalize all doctors AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #38

Based on that comment ejbr Sep 2021 #40

What happened to Trump administration members who criticized him? AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #42

Apologies ejbr Sep 2021 #54

No need to apologize. Cetacea Sep 2021 #105

It does not follow. LanternWaste Sep 2021 #47

I agree ejbr Sep 2021 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author ARPad95 Sep 2021 #27

Lol n/t ejbr Sep 2021 #29

Do you have a source for your claim that Garland is a Republican? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #30

Because Republicans clerk for liberal justices and get placed on the court by Democrats AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #32

Oops! I thought he was Republican (confused him with someone else). I deleted my comment. ARPad95 Sep 2021 #37

... StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #39

Good. Let's see how this plays in Plano. All armed up now with no permit/ training required. Yeehaw Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #36

Hmmmm. So he announces he's going to do what they've already been doing? Goodheart Sep 2021 #49

Please state specifically what YOU think DOJ should do right now? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #50

I don't know that I have an answer. Goodheart Sep 2021 #51

So you think that what they should do can't be done right now? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #57

I think the case would be stronger if somebody has already been injured. Goodheart Sep 2021 #60

What people are missing StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #64

Gotcha. Good move. I think we need more. Goodheart Sep 2021 #66

Kudos to you Starfish...always calm and knowledgeable. More of what we need right now PortTack Sep 2021 #67

Awesome! Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #52

K&R UTUSN Sep 2021 #55

I'm sorry but I need to see some action. BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #65

What form would this action take? Politicub Sep 2021 #69

How about ANYTHING BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #81

There are lots of things happening. Be curious. Politicub Sep 2021 #103

THANK you!!! StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #104

Exactly what action do you need to see DOJ taking right now? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #73

So you are perfectly happy with strongly worded memos? BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #78

Please share with us your ideas or what DOJ is supposed to do right now StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #82

Yeah, you said that already. BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #85

Strongly worded memos are not involved here, so your question is a ridiculous dodge StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #92

Like I said, we're done here. BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #94

Good for him. This is the start of Biden's "whole of government response," then. nt Hekate Sep 2021 #71

The Texas law was designed to put abortion clinics in TX out of business andym Sep 2021 #74

If you read Garland's statement, you'll see that StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #80

Its a bluff, the Repugs will never actually file any cases. Jon King Sep 2021 #75

This is about more than the civil lawsuits StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #83

Of course, but they have been doing that for decades. Jon King Sep 2021 #86

Merrick Garland just announced that the DOJ will protect women seeking abortions in Texas LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #79

Unless I missed something Zeitghost Sep 2021 #87

DOJ can only enforce law already on the books. They don't make laws StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #93

Precisely my point Zeitghost Sep 2021 #101

Garland should also announce that DOJ will defend any case brought. Jon King Sep 2021 #89

Which law would that be? Zeitghost Sep 2021 #91

I think it's a dare to sue HIM. Captain Zero Sep 2021 #90

TY & AG Merrick Garland Cha Sep 2021 #95

K&r Politicub Sep 2021 #102

This is the GOOD NEWS we need. nt Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #99

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼K&R👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Sep 2021 #107

Concerned with deputizing the public to fleece people with financial punishment bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #108

I'm not seeing the "friendly" part. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #112

Is he saying it will be criminal OneCrazyDiamond Sep 2021 #109

No, that's not what he's saying StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #110

Let's be real: this does very little. Loki Liesmith Sep 2021 #111

Actually, it will do quite a lot. StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #113

What exactly is it that you think this will do? Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #116

There can be no doubt the new law will embolden vigilantes to take matters into their own hands StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #117

So nothing new. As many in this thread have pointed out. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #119

It IS something new StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #121

New permission to enforce an existing law that does not address the Texas law. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #124

No one is claiming it does. StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #128