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7. Reconciliation IS "getting around a filibuster"

Wed Sep 8, 2021, 11:31 AM

Sep 2021

(And they have to continue within that process in order to get past it). Republicans won't vote for it even if they would otherwise support the legislation (likely more wishful thinking).

And don't forget that in a 50/50 senate, the bill can't even get out of committee without a majority on the floor calling for it.

Manchin and Sinema will eventually support some version of both bills

I hope so, but that would just be another reason why the OP is an incorrect read on the situation. My replies are in the context of a claim that Manchin/Sinema are worried that they will lose their influence because republicans will take their place.

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Manchin and Sinema may be scared of President Joe's Bipartisan push on Infrastructure [View all] Tommymac Sep 2021 OP

Wishful thinking I'm afraid FBaggins Sep 2021 #1

The reconciliation Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #6

Reconciliation IS "getting around a filibuster" FBaggins Sep 2021 #7

The reconciliation bill will not get two Republican votes IMHO. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #2

Hi, Tommymac! What does "the horse may sing" mean? littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #3

Apocryphal Fable Tommymac Sep 2021 #5

Ha!! Thanks for sharing this. littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #9

Thank so much!! Tommymac Sep 2021 #16

Teabagger Toomey will never do it BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #4

I am curious to see what mittens will do. 2naSalit Sep 2021 #8

I don't think he'll go along with this BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #10

And that's a good argument for why he wouldn't... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #11

Since that list of Rs was just showing those who voted for conviction BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #13

Any 2 Rethug senators are not same, but Sneederbunk Sep 2021 #12

Awfully tired of hearing about Joe Manchin's latest flop sweat Blue Owl Sep 2021 #14

I am inclined to agree with the OP DFW Sep 2021 #15

Yes. This is the kind of pressure to put on Joe & K - make them irrelevant and their egos will sing. Tommymac Sep 2021 #17

Manchin and Sinema will vote for it Buckeyeblue Sep 2021 #18

Unfortunately, three of them come from oil or coal states. hedda_foil Sep 2021 #19

I agree it will be difficult...I think Toomey could be swayed. Tommymac Sep 2021 #20

Collins owes us one for Kavanaugh n/t Blaukraut Sep 2021 #21

I'm concerned she will forget that fact. Tommymac Sep 2021 #22

I hope so... Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #23