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RVN VET71

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37. Thanks to Steve Schmidt, I read up on Lee's cruelty
Sat Sep 11, 2021, 04:39 PM
Sep 2021

Where before I thought him a traitor lured to betraying his country by a false sense of honor and loyalty to the State of Virginia, I now know he was a cruel son of a bitch, a sadist who thought so little of the people he “owned” that he tried to keep some of them enslaved when the law required him to free them and personally oversaw the torture of a brother and sister who sought to escape to the North -- even ordering the thug he hired to do the whipping, to lay it on hard and heavy -- presumably for his pleasure at their agony.

I had always regarded him as a traitor, but as a man who made the wrong choice because of a tortured conscience and a pained sense of divided loyalty. Now I know him as a beast, a terrible dishonorable man who betrayed his country because of slavery not despite it. And a man who felt sure enough of victory that he was comfortable participating in a war that killed almost as many Americans as covid-19. A man who hoped to destroy America to maintain a system of cruelty that embraced, even sanctified, the buying, selling, raping, and murdering of African Americans.

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NoShit.... [View all] pbmus Sep 2021 OP
K & R...for truth...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2021 #1
K & R . . . Lovie777 Sep 2021 #2
Wow, Steve, tell us how you really feel! Hekate Sep 2021 #3
I'm amazed that it's gone this far...... MyOwnPeace Sep 2021 #4
Because of Covid... Mr. Evil Sep 2021 #8
Well said, Mr. Schmidt Mysterian Sep 2021 #5
Yeah...but the car was cool The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #6
Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #7
Lee..."Raged against Republican attempts to enforce... The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #10
I have Mary Trump's new book and she also brought up General Lee (and that whole historical period) Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #11
Appalling. I remember thinking at the time The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #13
That is an excellent point Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #16
I'll have to see it. The documentary on Reconstruction, I mean. The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #25
It was a series on PBS a couple of years ago. And it covered facts about the post-Civil War Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #26
Read Black Reconstruction by W.E.B. Dubois Solomon Sep 2021 #33
Thank you! The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #38
Ken Burns was too lazy to do primary-source research. He let himself get snookered by Shelby Foote. TygrBright Sep 2021 #22
I didn't really know enough at the time to think critically about it. The Unmitigated Gall Sep 2021 #24
"States rights." calimary Sep 2021 #35
Whenever I hear the term "States Rights," I think of the start of the Reagan campaign Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #39
Shit, Rhiannon, I wish I knew... calimary Sep 2021 #40
I've even seen Confederate flags here in by area of Northeastern New York! Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #41
I guess we have our own American swastika: the confederate flag calimary Sep 2021 #42
KnR Alice Kramden Sep 2021 #9
I have an ancestor ymetca Sep 2021 #12
K & R for truth n/t malaise Sep 2021 #14
Revised history never taught in schools. Good post. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #15
I took my single required History class in the 10th grade Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #17
Grant kicked his traitor ass. kairos12 Sep 2021 #18
He should have ellie Sep 2021 #19
And Grant was slurred with "Unspeakable Slaughter" plimsoll Sep 2021 #20
A loyal right winger claimed that REL did not betray his oath to his country because he resigned his keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #21
Thank God you republicans won that war back in the 1860s. keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #23
Schools really need to do a much better job teaching U.S. history... Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #27
And spelling. niyad Sep 2021 #30
Yes, definitely spelling! Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #31
Yep! Spell check says you got the word right but does not care if you got the right word. keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #32
Waving niyad Sep 2021 #29
Idiots. calimary Sep 2021 #34
The American Swastika. I'm gonna start referring to that abominable Confederate flag calimary Sep 2021 #43
"The Kindly General" my ass.... Blue Owl Sep 2021 #28
Rt TY! Cha Sep 2021 #36
Thanks to Steve Schmidt, I read up on Lee's cruelty RVN VET71 Sep 2021 #37
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