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2Gingersnaps

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44. X1000
Sun Sep 12, 2021, 10:42 AM
Sep 2021

Canada has always had our back. Remember the day after? Americans could not fly in our airspace. But an airplane went around the country picking up Bin Ladens, particularly in Florida, and flying them out of the country. Bin Laden's were the contractors to the Saudi royal family. Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia was nicknamed "Bandar Bush." The Bushes have been rehabilitated, thank you tRump for being far worse than most people could imagine. But no, there was not "unity" after 9/11. Karl Rove came from the school of Lee Atwater, Roger Stone, and Paul Manafort, "creating your own reality." Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney had been at the table with Nixon and Kissinger on Vietnam. They were at the table for Afghanistan and Iraq. And now 20 years later there may be trials for the people who actually participated in 9/11. Why twenty years later? Remember John Yoo? The man who wrote the Torture Memos that provided the rational for torture of the detainees? Remember Abu Ghraib? The prison were torture took place? A private and a sergeant went to prison for that, not Donald Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney. Remember the CIA agent outed by Cheney, Valerie Plam, whose job was to track WMD around the globe? Scooter Libby, who worked for Cheney, was pardoned for that-by Trump. Where indeed did Donald Trump get the idea that the law does not apply to people like him.

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I don't know. W's approval ratings went through the roof. For Tomconroy Sep 2021 #1
Oh, I remember his approval ratings Thtwudbeme Sep 2021 #3
Depends on how monolithic you think "unity" has to be. Igel Sep 2021 #8
The day before 9/11 Dubya's approval ratings had tanked. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2021 #31
The RCP composite put him at 52.2% approval just before the attack. Lasher Sep 2021 #80
I was among the small percent who still disapproved of w. yardwork Sep 2021 #85
Agreed. I just had to keep my mouth shut about it, as I was active duty USCG at the time. LT Barclay Sep 2021 #93
You weren't the only one.... AZ8theist Sep 2021 #94
Chris Matthews has a lot to answer for. yardwork Sep 2021 #96
That was the "rally 'round" effect. The same thing happened with his dad in '90-'91 JHB Sep 2021 #33
why would people support that lying piece of shit Skittles Sep 2021 #76
Depending on the poll, only about 8-12% didn't support him 20 years ago Polybius Sep 2021 #91
I was among that 8 - 12% Skittles Sep 2021 #101
I wish I could say the same Polybius Sep 2021 #102
the man and his SC hacks stole the presidency Skittles Sep 2021 #103
I remember that Skittles Sep 2021 #75
Temporary insanity jcmaine72 Sep 2021 #86
Yep, that's how I remember it, too. GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #2
Bless Barbara Lee! McKim Sep 2021 #11
Ditto!!!!! BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #90
Up here in the Great White North, we remember luvtheGWN Sep 2021 #23
I remember very well how Canada wnylib Sep 2021 #34
From Alexandria, Ontario robbob Sep 2021 #36
From a small city near Buffalo, today. wnylib Sep 2021 #43
Are you referring to Presque Isle? My grandparents and cousins lived/live there. madinmaryland Sep 2021 #71
Yes, Presque Isle State Park. wnylib Sep 2021 #72
X1000 2Gingersnaps Sep 2021 #44
Hell, Bush the elder was breakfasting with Bandar Bush in Manhattan when the planes hit. hedda_foil Sep 2021 #78
I honestly don't remember the blame game or lack of thanks. But... GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #51
Thank you! luvtheGWN Sep 2021 #82
Don't start a land war in Asia. Don't start a land war in Asia. Oops, Damn! Walleye Sep 2021 #4
"Republican don't want to govern. They want to rule." Molly Ivins CrispyQ Sep 2021 #16
Oh Molly, yes. catrose Sep 2021 #92
And, don't forget that OBL's dad was meeting with W.'s father on 9/11/01. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #62
Oh I remember that. I always thought the bushes were dirty with the bin Laden's Walleye Sep 2021 #63
Not that it matters much... WarGamer Sep 2021 #67
Huh, I thought it was OBL's dad that was tight with GWB.... OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #83
Maybe "united" against Muslims . . . . . no_hypocrisy Sep 2021 #5
we became insular... agingdem Sep 2021 #6
I've had the same response straight along to that intel assessment. Igel Sep 2021 #12
I agree LeftInTX Sep 2021 #30
Good points, but was totally ignoring the memo robbob Sep 2021 #37
I remember being told that intel brief also said, "attack with planes". jaxexpat Sep 2021 #39
i remember a doonesbury from around that time, mopinko Sep 2021 #7
At the Supermarket on 9/12 2001 McKim Sep 2021 #9
Another lie resulting from 9/11 is that Bush kept us safe during his presidency. Gore1FL Sep 2021 #10
Absolutely a marketing tool. 2Gingersnaps Sep 2021 #45
+1 Baitball Blogger Sep 2021 #49
I always reply to that with: GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #54
Your assessment is correct randr Sep 2021 #13
Dumbya's approval rating went extremely high... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #14
Remember Richard Clark 2Gingersnaps Sep 2021 #47
Oh, yes, I can recall. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #58
Plenty of racists united in scapegoating brown people IronLionZion Sep 2021 #15
There's been no unity since Richard Nixon, Ronald Regan, Newt Gingrich, and Dennis Hastert Fla Dem Sep 2021 #17
hear! hear! Baitball Blogger Sep 2021 #53
You are absolutely right. Cheney was going around saying the Democrats would coddle the terrorists samsingh Sep 2021 #18
isnt that the era where shrub went after anyone who opposed the war? AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #19
Exactly, had a Dem been President, Repugs would have blamed and attacked him right away. Jon King Sep 2021 #20
Yep! nt Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #21
I believed then TimeToGo Sep 2021 #22
I suggest that there was unity afterwards... Ned Low Sep 2021 #24
But...W hugged a firefighter milestogo Sep 2021 #25
Unity lasted a few weeks LeftInTX Sep 2021 #26
Your association of Sgent Sep 2021 #27
Really. How do you explain the Republicans blaming Clinton on 9/12/2001? Thtwudbeme Sep 2021 #35
I am dark-skinned and I definitely felt like I was on their radar from day one. Baitball Blogger Sep 2021 #55
Yes..."freedumb fires" was RW propoganda respone radicalleft Sep 2021 #97
I was not 'Unified' Tommymac Sep 2021 #28
I remember it all too well. No unity whatsoever. (nt) Paladin Sep 2021 #29
And who can forget Jerry Falwell blaming gay people, liberals, feminists, and the ACLU for it? ck4829 Sep 2021 #32
The usual suspects were blaming Clinton before the sun had even set. JHB Sep 2021 #38
He had his unity until January or February 2002. His honeymoon was short. marble falls Sep 2021 #40
Yeah, maybe that long. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #48
Maybe check out Michael Moore's FIM, Fahrenheit 9/11. love_katz Sep 2021 #41
And, therein lies the truth. Baitball Blogger Sep 2021 #42
Middle Eastern people we're getting rounded up Lars39 Sep 2021 #46
The term freedom fries came about in 2003 fescuerescue Sep 2021 #50
Describe the "unity" you saw please Thtwudbeme Sep 2021 #52
So you can pick apart my 20 year old memories? fescuerescue Sep 2021 #64
If you don't want to respond- then don't Thtwudbeme Sep 2021 #77
I didn't thanks. fescuerescue Sep 2021 #98
Yeah, that was after France rightly didn't go along... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #61
yup. fescuerescue Sep 2021 #65
Yeah. They didn't like the French because France didn't Tomconroy Sep 2021 #79
No, but a lot of people desperately wanted us to be. n/t malthaussen Sep 2021 #56
It's funny how incompetence seems to correlate Aviation Pro Sep 2021 #57
Yeah, I remember. But, I refused to rename French Fries. Did not buy a gun. NCjack Sep 2021 #59
It was a Fascist form of "unity." Oneironaut Sep 2021 #60
Freedom Fries came bluedevil4 Sep 2021 #66
The French sent some of their NBC units to the Gulf. carpetbagger Sep 2021 #74
"With us or against us." - Saxby Chambliss vs Max Cleland - the swift boating of John Kerry. KentuckyWoman Sep 2021 #68
It was the biggest spin of all time FakeNoose Sep 2021 #69
There never is and never will be 100% unity, but in comparison with the usual... Silent3 Sep 2021 #70
I felt it. egduj Sep 2021 #73
Worldwide Snackshack Sep 2021 #81
I agree with you. yardwork Sep 2021 #84
Don't forget the firefighters and cops fighting at ground zero. johnp3907 Sep 2021 #87
What I remember most about those days is Demobrat Sep 2021 #88
I knew United We Stand was over when I got flipped off on I-5 Ferryboat Sep 2021 #89
I don't recall any xxqqqzme Sep 2021 #95
Yes, it was about that time when I discovered DU. Akacia Sep 2021 #99
Without any doubt, the GOP would have crucified a President Gore starting on 9/12. themaguffin Sep 2021 #100
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