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I Just Made This Point in Another Thread, But More Obliquely Beetwasher. Sep 2021 #1
And that's politics, isn't it? mcar Sep 2021 #7
Yes. There are several others who want the bills pared down. Hortensis Sep 2021 #54
Exactly. nt mcar Sep 2021 #58
This is negotiations LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #95
Fixed: Joe Manchin can be bribed to vote with Pres. Biden 100% of the time 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #2
Joe what's in it for me Manchin lame54 Sep 2021 #3
Again, politics mcar Sep 2021 #8
Yes, and accusing Manchin of accepting bribes is called libel, too. George II Sep 2021 #21
Plenty of dems tried to get pork 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #42
$3.5B. Sure, they're supposed to fight for and get improvements for their districts. Hortensis Sep 2021 #55
Getting "pork" included in a bill is one thing, "extorsion" is a totally different thing... George II Sep 2021 #94
The concept is called earmarks LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #98
Need to bring back earmarks paleotn Sep 2021 #49
Sure. After all, earmarks were originally designed to keep money allocated Hortensis Sep 2021 #59
Much was misused, but much wasn't. paleotn Sep 2021 #70
Earmarks are back, and Americans should be glad LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #100
Yes, they weren't all bad. nt mcar Sep 2021 #111
If Manchin was bribed to vote with President Biden he'd be prosecuted, convicted, and jailed.... George II Sep 2021 #19
I find Manchins extortion offensive. 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #23
What is Manchin "extorting"? George II Sep 2021 #33
You're funny 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #34
Accusing a Democratic Senator of committing a crime isn't funny... George II Sep 2021 #38
Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #39
Point me to one Senator who hasn't negotiated to get "pork" for their state mcar Sep 2021 #36
They all do FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #61
Polls also show WV voters voted 68.6% mcar Sep 2021 #112
Those voting R are generally voting against what's best for them. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #113
OK, but mcar Sep 2021 #115
Like I said. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #116
Do you find the concept of negotiations offensive? LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #101
This is NOT bribery in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #97
Compare with Bernie Sanders Staph Sep 2021 #4
Last place in the Democratic Caucus. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #9
I noticed that too. mcar Sep 2021 #10
Almost all of the votes they scored have been for nominations. former9thward Sep 2021 #5
Yes, the sampling Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #6
OK, so that's one you object to having included mcar Sep 2021 #11
That is moving the goalposts of the OP former9thward Sep 2021 #24
It's my OP mcar Sep 2021 #27
It is what it is, facts are facts. Manchin tied for #1 of 50. George II Sep 2021 #22
Facts do indeed matter in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #104
"Almost all of the votes they scored have been for nominations" BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #32
Thanks BRDS mcar Sep 2021 #37
It's amazing what HAS gotten done in 7 months BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #47
It is amazing mcar Sep 2021 #52
They have been also doing reversals of the crap regulations BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #72
The web page is called: George II Sep 2021 #40
The web page did not make a posting. former9thward Sep 2021 #57
The OP - me - used the conclusions indicated in the link mcar Sep 2021 #63
The OP was based on the web page. If the OP left out a link the complain would be "link?" George II Sep 2021 #83
Easy to do when things he'll vote against aren't brought up Sympthsical Sep 2021 #12
Do you think Nancy Pelosi would bring something to the floor that mcar Sep 2021 #13
I don't see how you're disagreeing with my counter Sympthsical Sep 2021 #17
In other words, Manchin has never voted against President Biden's agenda, other Senators have. George II Sep 2021 #41
You're just playing word games to form a false conclusion Sympthsical Sep 2021 #48
How much of Biden's agenda has Manchin, personally, derailed? mcar Sep 2021 #65
Call it what you will but facts are facts and it's NOT a "false narrative" or "demonstrably untrue". George II Sep 2021 #88
but that doesn't equate to Manchin supporting Biden initiatives 100% bigtree Sep 2021 #18
Does anyone have a better measure of Manchin's support of Biden's agenda? Or anyone else's? George II Sep 2021 #44
Thank you mcar Sep 2021 #53
Except in this case, Schumer has said "full speed ahead" on pony legislation Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #25
Has Manchin ever blocked any votes to move any bills from committee to the final bill? George II Sep 2021 #45
I think once, on a gun control bill after Sandy Hook Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #51
OK, but this OP is about this congress mcar Sep 2021 #66
So, I think Schumer should call for a vote on the committee reports and put Manchin on record Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #77
If it's the one I'm thinking of, S. Amdt. 715, he proposed the amendment, he voted for cloture .... George II Sep 2021 #87
There's also the "it would have passed anyway" defense, too. George II Sep 2021 #26
If Schumer would bring the pony legislation to the floor for a vote and Manchin LiberalArkie Sep 2021 #29
I don't think we're supposed to point that out. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #62
You mean bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #14
I honestly don't know what Sinemas motivation is mcar Sep 2021 #28
I see him as our Susan Collins AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #86
If Joe Manchin doesn't vote for a bill, Griefbird Sep 2021 #15
lol bigtree Sep 2021 #16
The American Rescue Plan was a huge bill mcar Sep 2021 #30
looks like we'd get a reconciliation bill *today*, but for his vote bigtree Sep 2021 #46
Quoting McConnell? mcar Sep 2021 #67
Oh Snap! sheshe2 Sep 2021 #79
McConnell's words are there to remind how much he's eating this up bigtree Sep 2021 #102
You do realize that MoscowMitch is playing games and trying to stoke division LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #103
When a bill is actually allowed to reach the senate floor for a vote, Manchin votes w/Biden 100% Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #20
Procedural shenanigans equal politics. nt mcar Sep 2021 #31
Well then let's look at the 14 since you brought it up. former9thward Sep 2021 #35
Are you goal-post moving now? BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #64
American Rescue Plan mcar Sep 2021 #68
Let's see if he votes for the big bill then. If he votes no... JanMichael Sep 2021 #43
Manchin is like nearly every other congressperson (D or R) Steelrolled Sep 2021 #50
David Chipman's nomination was pulled because Manchin opposed it FBaggins Sep 2021 #56
"Along with Tester and King" nt mcar Sep 2021 #69
So? They were just let off the leash. FBaggins Sep 2021 #74
They were let off the leash? mcar Sep 2021 #78
That isn't how it works FBaggins Sep 2021 #91
Thanks for explaining mcar Sep 2021 #92
Neera Tanden too. Celerity Sep 2021 #73
TY, mcar. It helps to know that! Hekate Sep 2021 #60
YW Hekate mcar Sep 2021 #71
Manchin and Sinema are the only 2 Dems left who will not budge (so far) on even modifications of it. Celerity Sep 2021 #76
Unfortunately there are "quieter" ones who are also resisting BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #89
I am a bit more optimistic that all save for Manchin and Sinema will ultimately for for a one-off Celerity Sep 2021 #99
You are posting stuff said back in January and March and April BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #105
I am only talking about Manchin and Sinema, and your newer articles simply re-enforce that they Celerity Sep 2021 #107
Yes - we know Manchin and Sinema are problems BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #109
So has Manchin mcar Sep 2021 #114
BUT a REAL Democrat would vote with Biden 110% of the time!!! brooklynite Sep 2021 #75
And go on Fox "News" to brag about it! mcar Sep 2021 #81
Manchin is the most conservative Senate Democrat AZProgressive Sep 2021 #80
I posted the link to what the stat is based on mcar Sep 2021 #82
We can't get anything done in the Senate AZProgressive Sep 2021 #84
We've gotten quite a lot done in the Senate mcar Sep 2021 #85
Manchin's Trump score Celerity Sep 2021 #90
The 115th Congress was from 2.5-4.5 years ago, these days virtually ancient history. Did you skip... George II Sep 2021 #108
Why would his "with tRump" score be anything more than 0? FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #117
Every Democrat in both the House and Senate have a +0 score. It's the comparative score that's key. George II Sep 2021 #118
Because that is when the Rethugs controlled things and you can see who goes along and votes Celerity Sep 2021 #120
They're both from conservative states, especially Manchin. Anyone less "conservative" that... George II Sep 2021 #93
There's a pile of them not that far off from him BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #106
Yeah but... Septua Sep 2021 #96
Technically BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #110
One thing wrong with this: Polybius Sep 2021 #119
I think you misunderstand the statistic referenced. honest.abe Sep 2021 #121
This is interesting and encouraging although a bit misleading. honest.abe Sep 2021 #122
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