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61. They all do

Sun Sep 12, 2021, 06:56 PM

Sep 2021

But Manchin is definitely NOT trying to appease his voters. Polls have shown that the people of WV want the things Manchin is getting in the way of.

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Joe Manchin votes with Pres. Biden 100% of the time [View all] mcar Sep 2021 OP

I Just Made This Point in Another Thread, But More Obliquely Beetwasher. Sep 2021 #1

And that's politics, isn't it? mcar Sep 2021 #7

Yes. There are several others who want the bills pared down. Hortensis Sep 2021 #54

Exactly. nt mcar Sep 2021 #58

This is negotiations LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #95

Fixed: Joe Manchin can be bribed to vote with Pres. Biden 100% of the time 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #2

Joe what's in it for me Manchin lame54 Sep 2021 #3

Again, politics mcar Sep 2021 #8

Yes, and accusing Manchin of accepting bribes is called libel, too. George II Sep 2021 #21

Plenty of dems tried to get pork 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #42

$3.5B. Sure, they're supposed to fight for and get improvements for their districts. Hortensis Sep 2021 #55

Getting "pork" included in a bill is one thing, "extorsion" is a totally different thing... George II Sep 2021 #94

The concept is called earmarks LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #98

Need to bring back earmarks paleotn Sep 2021 #49

Sure. After all, earmarks were originally designed to keep money allocated Hortensis Sep 2021 #59

Much was misused, but much wasn't. paleotn Sep 2021 #70

Earmarks are back, and Americans should be glad LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #100

Yes, they weren't all bad. nt mcar Sep 2021 #111

If Manchin was bribed to vote with President Biden he'd be prosecuted, convicted, and jailed.... George II Sep 2021 #19

I find Manchins extortion offensive. 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #23

What is Manchin "extorting"? George II Sep 2021 #33

You're funny 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #34

Accusing a Democratic Senator of committing a crime isn't funny... George II Sep 2021 #38

Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #39

Point me to one Senator who hasn't negotiated to get "pork" for their state mcar Sep 2021 #36

They all do FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #61

Polls also show WV voters voted 68.6% mcar Sep 2021 #112

Those voting R are generally voting against what's best for them. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #113

OK, but mcar Sep 2021 #115

Like I said. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #116

Do you find the concept of negotiations offensive? LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #101

This is NOT bribery in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #97

Compare with Bernie Sanders Staph Sep 2021 #4

Last place in the Democratic Caucus. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #9

I noticed that too. mcar Sep 2021 #10

Almost all of the votes they scored have been for nominations. former9thward Sep 2021 #5

Yes, the sampling Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #6

OK, so that's one you object to having included mcar Sep 2021 #11

That is moving the goalposts of the OP former9thward Sep 2021 #24

It's my OP mcar Sep 2021 #27

It is what it is, facts are facts. Manchin tied for #1 of 50. George II Sep 2021 #22

Facts do indeed matter in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #104

"Almost all of the votes they scored have been for nominations" BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #32

Thanks BRDS mcar Sep 2021 #37

It's amazing what HAS gotten done in 7 months BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #47

It is amazing mcar Sep 2021 #52

They have been also doing reversals of the crap regulations BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #72

The web page is called: George II Sep 2021 #40

The web page did not make a posting. former9thward Sep 2021 #57

The OP - me - used the conclusions indicated in the link mcar Sep 2021 #63

The OP was based on the web page. If the OP left out a link the complain would be "link?" George II Sep 2021 #83

Easy to do when things he'll vote against aren't brought up Sympthsical Sep 2021 #12

Do you think Nancy Pelosi would bring something to the floor that mcar Sep 2021 #13

I don't see how you're disagreeing with my counter Sympthsical Sep 2021 #17

In other words, Manchin has never voted against President Biden's agenda, other Senators have. George II Sep 2021 #41

You're just playing word games to form a false conclusion Sympthsical Sep 2021 #48

How much of Biden's agenda has Manchin, personally, derailed? mcar Sep 2021 #65

Call it what you will but facts are facts and it's NOT a "false narrative" or "demonstrably untrue". George II Sep 2021 #88

but that doesn't equate to Manchin supporting Biden initiatives 100% bigtree Sep 2021 #18

Does anyone have a better measure of Manchin's support of Biden's agenda? Or anyone else's? George II Sep 2021 #44

Thank you mcar Sep 2021 #53

Except in this case, Schumer has said "full speed ahead" on pony legislation Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #25

Has Manchin ever blocked any votes to move any bills from committee to the final bill? George II Sep 2021 #45

I think once, on a gun control bill after Sandy Hook Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #51

OK, but this OP is about this congress mcar Sep 2021 #66

So, I think Schumer should call for a vote on the committee reports and put Manchin on record Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #77

If it's the one I'm thinking of, S. Amdt. 715, he proposed the amendment, he voted for cloture .... George II Sep 2021 #87

There's also the "it would have passed anyway" defense, too. George II Sep 2021 #26

If Schumer would bring the pony legislation to the floor for a vote and Manchin LiberalArkie Sep 2021 #29

I don't think we're supposed to point that out. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #62

You mean bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #14

I honestly don't know what Sinemas motivation is mcar Sep 2021 #28

I see him as our Susan Collins AZSkiffyGeek Sep 2021 #86

If Joe Manchin doesn't vote for a bill, Griefbird Sep 2021 #15

lol bigtree Sep 2021 #16

The American Rescue Plan was a huge bill mcar Sep 2021 #30

looks like we'd get a reconciliation bill *today*, but for his vote bigtree Sep 2021 #46

Quoting McConnell? mcar Sep 2021 #67

Oh Snap! sheshe2 Sep 2021 #79

McConnell's words are there to remind how much he's eating this up bigtree Sep 2021 #102

You do realize that MoscowMitch is playing games and trying to stoke division LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #103

When a bill is actually allowed to reach the senate floor for a vote, Manchin votes w/Biden 100% Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #20

Procedural shenanigans equal politics. nt mcar Sep 2021 #31

Well then let's look at the 14 since you brought it up. former9thward Sep 2021 #35

Are you goal-post moving now? BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #64

American Rescue Plan mcar Sep 2021 #68

Let's see if he votes for the big bill then. If he votes no... JanMichael Sep 2021 #43

Manchin is like nearly every other congressperson (D or R) Steelrolled Sep 2021 #50

David Chipman's nomination was pulled because Manchin opposed it FBaggins Sep 2021 #56

"Along with Tester and King" nt mcar Sep 2021 #69

So? They were just let off the leash. FBaggins Sep 2021 #74

They were let off the leash? mcar Sep 2021 #78

That isn't how it works FBaggins Sep 2021 #91

Thanks for explaining mcar Sep 2021 #92

Neera Tanden too. Celerity Sep 2021 #73

TY, mcar. It helps to know that! Hekate Sep 2021 #60

YW Hekate mcar Sep 2021 #71

Manchin and Sinema are the only 2 Dems left who will not budge (so far) on even modifications of it. Celerity Sep 2021 #76

Unfortunately there are "quieter" ones who are also resisting BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #89

I am a bit more optimistic that all save for Manchin and Sinema will ultimately for for a one-off Celerity Sep 2021 #99

You are posting stuff said back in January and March and April BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #105

I am only talking about Manchin and Sinema, and your newer articles simply re-enforce that they Celerity Sep 2021 #107

Yes - we know Manchin and Sinema are problems BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #109

So has Manchin mcar Sep 2021 #114

BUT a REAL Democrat would vote with Biden 110% of the time!!! brooklynite Sep 2021 #75

And go on Fox "News" to brag about it! mcar Sep 2021 #81

Manchin is the most conservative Senate Democrat AZProgressive Sep 2021 #80

I posted the link to what the stat is based on mcar Sep 2021 #82

We can't get anything done in the Senate AZProgressive Sep 2021 #84

We've gotten quite a lot done in the Senate mcar Sep 2021 #85

Manchin's Trump score Celerity Sep 2021 #90

The 115th Congress was from 2.5-4.5 years ago, these days virtually ancient history. Did you skip... George II Sep 2021 #108

Why would his "with tRump" score be anything more than 0? FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #117

Every Democrat in both the House and Senate have a +0 score. It's the comparative score that's key. George II Sep 2021 #118

Because that is when the Rethugs controlled things and you can see who goes along and votes Celerity Sep 2021 #120

They're both from conservative states, especially Manchin. Anyone less "conservative" that... George II Sep 2021 #93

There's a pile of them not that far off from him BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #106

Yeah but... Septua Sep 2021 #96

Technically BumRushDaShow Sep 2021 #110

One thing wrong with this: Polybius Sep 2021 #119

I think you misunderstand the statistic referenced. honest.abe Sep 2021 #121

This is interesting and encouraging although a bit misleading. honest.abe Sep 2021 #122