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In reply to the discussion: Joe Manchin votes with Pres. Biden 100% of the time [View all]BumRushDaShow
(169,908 posts)105. You are posting stuff said back in January and March and April
That's why I purposely included the stuff that came out in June (the 23rd and the 28th).
Here is what was set into motion last month (August) -
Democrats, Converted to Filibuster Foes, Are Set to Force the Issue
By Carl Hulse
Published June 4, 2021 Updated Aug. 5, 2021
WASHINGTON When the Senate voted in January 2011 on what was then considered an outlandish proposal to allow a simple majority of senators to break filibusters, only a dozen Democrats backed the plan, which went down in a flamingly lopsided vote. A decade on, the vast majority of Senate Democrats have come around to the view that the filibuster rules which require a supermajority of 60 votes to bring legislation to a final vote are antiquated and unworkable, and have become the primary obstacle to meaningful policy changes that enjoy broad support.
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Each vote will be building the case to convict the Republican Senate leadership of engaging in political gridlock for their advantage, rather than voting for the agenda the American people voted for in 2020, Mr. Markey said. It is replicating a strategy that Harry Reid, then the Senate majority leader, employed in 2013 to persuade fellow Democrats to blow up the filibuster for judicial and executive branch nominees. He purposefully lined up a series of votes on highly regarded nominees to the influential United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. When Republicans repeatedly blocked them, Mr. Reid gathered enough Democratic support to change the rules by a majority vote.
(snip)
Mr. Reid was working with a larger majority than Mr. Schumer 55 compared with 50 Democrats today and among those he failed to convince was Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, a prominent Democratic opponent of weakening the filibuster and one of three Democrats who balked at the changes in 2013. He is not the only holdout. Senator Kyrsten Sinema, Democrat of Arizona, doubled down on her opposition to changing the filibuster during an appearance back home this week as she stood beside Senator John Cornyn of Texas, one of the Republicans who had just blocked the Jan. 6 commission.
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Other Democrats, though more quietly, remain apprehensive about changing the filibuster rules. But colleagues and activists believe they can be convinced to do so when it becomes clear that the future of minority voting rights across the country is on the line and that the partys aggressive agenda is going to be stymied almost single-handedly by Mr. McConnell. Mr. Reid used private party meetings to build momentum for a change, and Mr. Schumer is following the same path. Still, even some vocal proponents of gutting the filibuster are privately pessimistic about their prospects and fear that any gains made in June could quickly dissipate if the Senate spends July on infrastructure measures and then decamps, as scheduled, for the remainder of the summer. Democratic senators and key aides say they believe they have made progress nudging senators like Jon Tester of Montana and Angus King of Maine, who are wary of changing the rules, toward doing so for voting-related bills, if not permanently.
(snip)
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/04/us/democrats-filibuster-senate.html
By Carl Hulse
Published June 4, 2021 Updated Aug. 5, 2021
WASHINGTON When the Senate voted in January 2011 on what was then considered an outlandish proposal to allow a simple majority of senators to break filibusters, only a dozen Democrats backed the plan, which went down in a flamingly lopsided vote. A decade on, the vast majority of Senate Democrats have come around to the view that the filibuster rules which require a supermajority of 60 votes to bring legislation to a final vote are antiquated and unworkable, and have become the primary obstacle to meaningful policy changes that enjoy broad support.
(snip)
Each vote will be building the case to convict the Republican Senate leadership of engaging in political gridlock for their advantage, rather than voting for the agenda the American people voted for in 2020, Mr. Markey said. It is replicating a strategy that Harry Reid, then the Senate majority leader, employed in 2013 to persuade fellow Democrats to blow up the filibuster for judicial and executive branch nominees. He purposefully lined up a series of votes on highly regarded nominees to the influential United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. When Republicans repeatedly blocked them, Mr. Reid gathered enough Democratic support to change the rules by a majority vote.
(snip)
Mr. Reid was working with a larger majority than Mr. Schumer 55 compared with 50 Democrats today and among those he failed to convince was Senator Joe Manchin III of West Virginia, a prominent Democratic opponent of weakening the filibuster and one of three Democrats who balked at the changes in 2013. He is not the only holdout. Senator Kyrsten Sinema, Democrat of Arizona, doubled down on her opposition to changing the filibuster during an appearance back home this week as she stood beside Senator John Cornyn of Texas, one of the Republicans who had just blocked the Jan. 6 commission.
(snip)
Other Democrats, though more quietly, remain apprehensive about changing the filibuster rules. But colleagues and activists believe they can be convinced to do so when it becomes clear that the future of minority voting rights across the country is on the line and that the partys aggressive agenda is going to be stymied almost single-handedly by Mr. McConnell. Mr. Reid used private party meetings to build momentum for a change, and Mr. Schumer is following the same path. Still, even some vocal proponents of gutting the filibuster are privately pessimistic about their prospects and fear that any gains made in June could quickly dissipate if the Senate spends July on infrastructure measures and then decamps, as scheduled, for the remainder of the summer. Democratic senators and key aides say they believe they have made progress nudging senators like Jon Tester of Montana and Angus King of Maine, who are wary of changing the rules, toward doing so for voting-related bills, if not permanently.
(snip)
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/04/us/democrats-filibuster-senate.html
So, as the old saying goes, they are still "softening the targets". As long as the others are in the background STILL equivocating, even as late as last month, then the show-boaters will feel "safe" doing the same.
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$3.5B. Sure, they're supposed to fight for and get improvements for their districts.
Hortensis
Sep 2021
#55
Getting "pork" included in a bill is one thing, "extorsion" is a totally different thing...
George II
Sep 2021
#94
If Manchin was bribed to vote with President Biden he'd be prosecuted, convicted, and jailed....
George II
Sep 2021
#19
The OP was based on the web page. If the OP left out a link the complain would be "link?"
George II
Sep 2021
#83
In other words, Manchin has never voted against President Biden's agenda, other Senators have.
George II
Sep 2021
#41
Call it what you will but facts are facts and it's NOT a "false narrative" or "demonstrably untrue".
George II
Sep 2021
#88
Does anyone have a better measure of Manchin's support of Biden's agenda? Or anyone else's?
George II
Sep 2021
#44
Except in this case, Schumer has said "full speed ahead" on pony legislation
Fiendish Thingy
Sep 2021
#25
Has Manchin ever blocked any votes to move any bills from committee to the final bill?
George II
Sep 2021
#45
So, I think Schumer should call for a vote on the committee reports and put Manchin on record
Fiendish Thingy
Sep 2021
#77
If it's the one I'm thinking of, S. Amdt. 715, he proposed the amendment, he voted for cloture ....
George II
Sep 2021
#87
If Schumer would bring the pony legislation to the floor for a vote and Manchin
LiberalArkie
Sep 2021
#29
You do realize that MoscowMitch is playing games and trying to stoke division
LetMyPeopleVote
Sep 2021
#103
When a bill is actually allowed to reach the senate floor for a vote, Manchin votes w/Biden 100%
Fiendish Thingy
Sep 2021
#20
Manchin and Sinema are the only 2 Dems left who will not budge (so far) on even modifications of it.
Celerity
Sep 2021
#76
I am a bit more optimistic that all save for Manchin and Sinema will ultimately for for a one-off
Celerity
Sep 2021
#99
I am only talking about Manchin and Sinema, and your newer articles simply re-enforce that they
Celerity
Sep 2021
#107
The 115th Congress was from 2.5-4.5 years ago, these days virtually ancient history. Did you skip...
George II
Sep 2021
#108
Every Democrat in both the House and Senate have a +0 score. It's the comparative score that's key.
George II
Sep 2021
#118
Because that is when the Rethugs controlled things and you can see who goes along and votes
Celerity
Sep 2021
#120