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MichMan

(17,265 posts)
39. You have no idea where I live or how big my home is
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:06 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:50 AM - Edit history (2)

But hey - as long as as you get to pay $1200 per year on your famcy schmancy 2500 square foot suburban oasis in Michigan . .

fancy schmanzy (nope)
2500 sq feet (nope)
Suburban (nope)
Oasis (lmao)
It is in Michigan, so at least you got one right

I'm a recent retiree, living in the first house my wife & I bought 28 yrs ago as a starter home, in a rural part of the state. My taxes went down only because the standard deduction was increased. That helped millions of lower income people who don't itemize, like 2/3 of all filers.

Property taxes are still property taxes. Even if you get to deduct them from income tax, the deduction is worth about 15%. The first 10K of SALT is even still allowed as a full deduction. That means someone who has a property tax bill of $20K is now paying effectively $18,500.

That means someone with property tax of 20k per year is still paying over $1500 per month in PROPERTY TAXES alone. That is more per month than my mortgage plus taxes ever was. For people that live in low COL areas, that seems incomprehensible. If you think it is well worth it, good for you.

Either way, I don't understand how a senior on SS can afford to stay in their home with that amount of property tax, whether there are SALT deductions or not.

I'm no more selfish wanting to keep the standard deduction where it is for my own interests, than you are for wanting the full SALT restored because it saves you $.

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I got a big tax cut when they expanded the standard deduction as a part of that legislation MichMan Sep 2021 #1
No. Taxes are on profit FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #3
When the Trump tariffs kicked in, all we heard its that they were being passed down to consumers MichMan Sep 2021 #9
Tariffs are not income taxes. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #10
I give up MichMan Sep 2021 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2021 #14
Please explain how a tariff and a tax of identical amounts that is assessed on the same company MichMan Sep 2021 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2021 #20
They were JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #26
Yup, it won't show up in our taxes, but the cost of living is definitely going up. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #28
I'm in Trade JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #30
The cost to build and produce an aluminum extrusion factory does not make sense, here. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #35
Yep JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #37
While I think India is a better place to invest, long term.... OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2021 #38
Taxes on individual transactions, such as sales tax, can be "passed on" unblock Sep 2021 #5
I don't understand your example because sales taxes are paid directly by consumers anyway. MichMan Sep 2021 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2021 #16
They won't lose business to competitors if they all pay the same sales tax unblock Sep 2021 #24
this is false azureblue Sep 2021 #6
Responding to those who champion repealing the entirety of the Republican tax cut MichMan Sep 2021 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2021 #17
Your taxes may have gone down...Mine went up! Thunderbeast Sep 2021 #8
A home in my area that cost that much in property taxes is owned by the rich MichMan Sep 2021 #13
In Oregon, with high property AND income taxes, you do not need to be weakthy Thunderbeast Sep 2021 #15
Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #18
Not true JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #23
My property taxes are $1200 on a house valued just under $200K MichMan Sep 2021 #29
How does your average retiree in NJ on a fixed income afford $10k in annual property taxes? MichMan Sep 2021 #32
Since the blue state money grab of 2019 JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #36
You have no idea where I live or how big my home is MichMan Sep 2021 #39
When you were working - JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #44
A house with a $10,000 property tax bill is a Mansion in most of the US fescuerescue Sep 2021 #47
Your teachers are underpaid JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #27
Michigan is 7th in the country for average teacher salary and 2nd with COL factored in MichMan Sep 2021 #31
Who is paying for it? $8700 per student JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #33
$216K is in the top 10% MichMan Sep 2021 #40
Not in New Jersey JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #43
It's not $216K - $305,190 JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #45
Nothing is being repealed. Biden's proposing a new tax law. GoodRaisin Sep 2021 #25
Well it better not, because we were promised that no one making under $400k would see a tax increase MichMan Sep 2021 #41
He did promise that, and has kept his promise. Nt GoodRaisin Sep 2021 #42
When the standard deduction was doubled but personal exemption disappeared questionseverything Sep 2021 #34
This is pretty much as promised, except GoodRaisin Sep 2021 #2
News Link blogslug Sep 2021 #4
This post explains corporate taxes as I understood them MichMan Sep 2021 #21
Tax Wealth Accumulated Not Income DanieRains Sep 2021 #22
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #46
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