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honest.abe

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5. This makes it sounds like the girl was the aggressor.

Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:06 AM

Sep 2021

Its highly possible the guy provoked her by taking her phone and control of her van. I think what might have happened is that their quarreling continued and escalated and he forced her out the van and was going to leave her. She might have tried to stop him by attempting to block the van or hang onto the van and he ran over her killing her. That might explain why he is not talking and his parents are protecting him. It could just be a tragic accident that happened in the heat of the moment. It still would be considered at least manslaughter and complicated by the fact he left the scene of the accident. The crime would also be worsened if he hid the body or buried it. The kid is guilty of something no matter what. That is why he is hiding behind parents and lawyers.

Very sad and tragic situation.

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Gabby Petito fought with her fiance before she disappeared. He won't provide 'any helpful details.' [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 OP

He probably dropped her off somewhere. or she got out of the van and he drove off. Klaralven Sep 2021 #1

This makes it sounds like the girl was the aggressor. honest.abe Sep 2021 #5

Wow... radicalleft Sep 2021 #14

Just a theory to explain the weirdness of the situation. honest.abe Sep 2021 #24

So are men who have been abused. uppityperson Sep 2021 #71

womensaid.org.uk: Domestic abuse is a gendered crime honest.abe Sep 2021 #73

My young friend finally told me they were abused for yrs after partner tried to run them over with a uppityperson Sep 2021 #74

Women can be abusers too. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #83

Yes. honest.abe Sep 2021 #85

He slapped her in a previous complaint. If it was an accident, he wouldn't be doing what he is Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #36

Yeah, I read that. honest.abe Sep 2021 #45

He hit her. That is a red flag...it always escalates. And if he hid the body well enough he may Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #50

i thought that she hit him Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #61

Now explain why she hasn't contacted her family or friends for weeks ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #13

She might have died, might have had a mental breakdown, been picked up by someone Klaralven Sep 2021 #16

The simple solution is usually the right one. He probably killed her. Intentionally or not. ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #22

He probably wouldn't want to talk about it if he dropped her off on some gravel road in the mountain Klaralven Sep 2021 #23

Hard to believe he would do that and feel no guilt after some time. honest.abe Sep 2021 #29

That's what the lawyer is for - to keep him for saying something stupid because of feeling guilty Klaralven Sep 2021 #44

If he only dropped her off somewhere and she was found safe then he has nothing stupid to say. honest.abe Sep 2021 #47

She hasn't been found safe. He may have no idea what happened to her after they separated Klaralven Sep 2021 #51

That's my point.. why did he not even try to find her or tell someone where she might be found. honest.abe Sep 2021 #56

How about he beat her death, stabbed her, choked the life out of her and she is dead... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #37

Yup ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #58

Daily Mail obamanut2012 Sep 2021 #26

It's a tabloid story, and they do them well. Klaralven Sep 2021 #27

Tales to Astound LanternWaste Sep 2021 #62

Soon To Be WHITT Sep 2021 #2

Is Gabby Petito's Disappearance Related to Married Couple's Murder? Utah Police Are 'Not Ruling Anyt Klaralven Sep 2021 #3

Hard to see why there would be a link between these people. Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #4

In my mysteries...he would have killed his girlfriend and they saw it so he killed them too... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #40

But the girlfriend was alive later, after the couple was dead Klaralven Sep 2021 #46

True that but how do we know the girl friend was alive...missed that. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #48

Facetime with her mother. Klaralven Sep 2021 #53

How is it the Laundrie Quakerfriend Sep 2021 #6

I think he has declined to be questioned which is his right I believe. honest.abe Sep 2021 #8

They can never force him to be questioned, charged or not greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #12

Right but they could at least bring him in for questioning if they charged him with something. honest.abe Sep 2021 #25

Wouldn't they need some evidence in order to charge him? Klaralven Sep 2021 #28

Yeah, that's why I think they are waiting to do it. honest.abe Sep 2021 #30

He could demand a lawyer and wouldn't have to sit there saying nothing greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #34

I think cops do actually bring suspects in to be questioned despite the possibility they wont talk. honest.abe Sep 2021 #41

Sure, and they have to stop questioning immediately upon the request for a lawyer greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #43

They are going to bring him for questioning at some point regardless of whether he talks or not. honest.abe Sep 2021 #49

They can arrest him greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #54

Yeah I got that, but the original question was why haven't they brought him in for questioning. honest.abe Sep 2021 #55

"This is basic stuff..." LanternWaste Sep 2021 #63

Cops called... Let the (white) guy go after talking to them both... winstars Sep 2021 #7

Indeed. honest.abe Sep 2021 #9

Sounds like they would have to arrest her since she was the one whom witness saw hitting him. LisaL Sep 2021 #32

From the reports Zeitghost Sep 2021 #57

Dude is definitely going to spend decades in a Utah prison greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #10

Only if he murdered the couple. Gabby was still alive in Wyoming. Klaralven Sep 2021 #18

He killed her...why else would he refuse to give any details? Why are you defending him... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #38

Please don't jump to conclusions so fast. uppityperson Sep 2021 #11

Good point. I removed my comment ("Here we go again.") NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #19

If the police are competent they should be able to piece together a digital trail. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #15

I think they've done that and the trail ends in Grand Teton Nat Park in Wyoming Klaralven Sep 2021 #17

If they argued all the way from Moab to Grand Teton, that's a long way to argue. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #20

8 hours, 21 minutes of driving according to Google. They were allegedly headed to Yellowstone. Klaralven Sep 2021 #21

It's a safe bet they argued more than once. LisaL Sep 2021 #33

It's probably too early to assume he killed her, but he needs to talk to the police and be helpful liberal_mama Sep 2021 #31

Any competent criminal attorney would give the advice he and his family have clearly received greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #35

Really...well if she just left and he could help the police find her, I say he is a piece of Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #39

I don't think that's what happened either greenjar_01 Sep 2021 #42

He might get away with it...but I wonder how a Blackman who tried this would fare... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #52

I don't know. Treefrog Sep 2021 #60

OJ wasn't a regular Black man, he was wealthy and famous MVP Kamala Sep 2021 #84

He's literally a victim of intimate partner violence per this police report mathematic Sep 2021 #68

Thank you. uppityperson Sep 2021 #72

Have you watched the police dash & body cams footage? She told them displacedtexan Sep 2021 #77

Her fear was he was going to leave her - he locked her out of the van womanofthehills Sep 2021 #69

Lot of trails to get lost on in the Grand Tetons. Xolodno Sep 2021 #59

That's what I'm thinking - his phone would incriminate him FakeNoose Sep 2021 #64

Police Release Body Cam Footage Of Incident Two Weeks Before Van Lifer's Disappearance mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #65

2000 people died from COVID today edhopper Sep 2021 #66

This post is illogical. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #67

So you think this story deserves the attention it is getting edhopper Sep 2021 #75

That's on you. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #78

Why are we here? edhopper Sep 2021 #79

Just seems weird to come into a thread about a case you don't care about. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #81

It's a fascinating story that many women can relate to womanofthehills Sep 2021 #70

That's fine edhopper Sep 2021 #76

Her name is Gabby Petito, not "missing white lady". Niagara Sep 2021 #82

... Moab, Utah, police had an encounter with the couple on August 12, where officers described them struggle4progress Sep 2021 #80