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roamer65

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29. Give France the contract for the ICBM's that eventually will be on these submarines.

Fri Sep 17, 2021, 10:00 PM

Sep 2021

Seriously, no navy has nuclear submarines without ICBM’s aboard.

We all know that is the next step.

Western Europe in the Soviet days relied upon the American nuclear arsenal in the face of massive Warsaw Pact conventional forces.

AUKUS is a similar strategy against China.

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Some help. please, understanding France's anger over the U.S./Australian sub deal [View all] PJMcK Sep 2021 OP

They're upset because they were already counting the 44 billion this deal was supposed to bring t Fullduplexxx Sep 2021 #1

Yeah, I thought it was about business PJMcK Sep 2021 #4

It's just a guess but that deal was worth a lot to France Fullduplexxx Sep 2021 #15

Your Guess Is Spot On ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #22

France was going to sell them submarines for big money. dawg Sep 2021 #2

Figures PJMcK Sep 2021 #5

They lost a big sub contract edhopper Sep 2021 #3

So the U.S. beat France out of a big bucks contract?! PJMcK Sep 2021 #6

If this is what passes for comprehension on this board, we're in trouble BeyondGeography Sep 2021 #8

Thanks for your thoughtful response (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2021 #12

Good synopsis. Treefrog Sep 2021 #51

Thanks for real information; of course, we'll always need more Hortensis Sep 2021 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author wcmagumba Sep 2021 #7

If nothing else France shouldn't have heard about this from the news ripcord Sep 2021 #9

Ca$h. Period relayerbob Sep 2021 #10

Most of what everyone said, but there is more. Xolodno Sep 2021 #11

Interesting information PJMcK Sep 2021 #13

Seems like cutting France in on supplying a portion of the nuclear subs BeyondGeography Sep 2021 #16

That would have went a long way. Xolodno Sep 2021 #19

It does seem that would have been the better way to go. nt crickets Sep 2021 #25

One thing to understand about Australia. roamer65 Sep 2021 #47

Too bad. I welcome the jobs. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #20

Then I hope you didn't level any criticisim at Trump for screwing allies. Coventina Sep 2021 #21

Trump didn't bring jobs here. Winning contracts is not screwing allies. We don't owe allies Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #49

"It's not personal it's just business". n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #14

More info: JoanofArgh Sep 2021 #17

That tidy explanation omits that Australia was in France last month touting their sub deal BeyondGeography Sep 2021 #18

The French-Australian sub program was plagued with problems Kaleva Sep 2021 #27

So let's sneak behind their backs for six months and steal their shit? BeyondGeography Sep 2021 #28

Yes. Devil Child Sep 2021 #30

yes, that is often how it works when one entity is in breach of contract. uncle ray Sep 2021 #31

Did we steal their shit? I don't think so. Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #32

Did Biden just take a diplomatic hit that even Trump on his worst days never did? BeyondGeography Sep 2021 #35

France is throwing a tantrum. Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #39

Looking at this in business terms is terribly misguided BeyondGeography Sep 2021 #43

So the French can just fuck it up.... Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #45

What part of this is not "restoring our alliances" do you fail to grasp? BeyondGeography Sep 2021 #46

Glad someone said it. Treefrog Sep 2021 #52

What was stolen? The deal with France didn't really make much sense and had severe problems. Kaleva Sep 2021 #36

Thanks for that info PJMcK Sep 2021 #26

France is upset because of business. The contract was changed was for other reasons. Calista241 Sep 2021 #23

This move gives me hope that the Western world is finally taking a stand against China Devil Child Sep 2021 #54

Politics, timing, and cost overruns. crickets Sep 2021 #24

Give France the contract for the ICBM's that eventually will be on these submarines. roamer65 Sep 2021 #29

Ummmm.... Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #33

I forgot the sarcasm thingy. roamer65 Sep 2021 #34

They are inteneded as attack submarines Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #37

Don't worry. roamer65 Sep 2021 #38

Okay, I'm bad at this! Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #40

I'm joking. roamer65 Sep 2021 #41

Okay, got it... and yes... Happy Hoosier Sep 2021 #42

Also, a Raytheon cruise missile comes with many options for warheads. roamer65 Sep 2021 #44

Lock this idiot up LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #48

What? (N/t) PJMcK Sep 2021 #50

The way I understand it... tavernier Sep 2021 #55