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MineralMan

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2. Receiving Oxygen Is Very Different from Getting a Liver Transplant

Reply to cinematicdiversions (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:20 AM

Sep 2021

That's a poor example, really. On the other hand, heroic measures provided to COVID-19 patients come closer to a comparison. Hospitals and medical staffs are going to try to save lives. That's what they do.

The reason that liver transplants are withheld from habitual alcohol users is because they don't work very well if the patient returns to using alcohol. There's a huge undersupply of human livers to be transplanted, so there is a triage system in place to make sure that the transplants go to patients with the best chances of long-term survival.

Arguments could be made in the case of COVID infections among the unvaccinated, but not the one you suggest.

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Alcoholics are put at the bottom of the list for liver transplants [View all] cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 OP

People in hospice get oxygen. Although using fans and opioids can help comfort more mucifer Sep 2021 #1

Receiving Oxygen Is Very Different from Getting a Liver Transplant MineralMan Sep 2021 #2

When do we start rationing care for obesity? Sympthsical Sep 2021 #3

Not a scientific study, Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #10

When obese people kcr Sep 2021 #13

They are Sympthsical Sep 2021 #14

When the obese are pushing ER capacity to 230%, causing innocent kids Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #19

As MM says. Our first move, in any case, is to increase oxygen supplies Hortensis Sep 2021 #4

When my 96 year old father was taken to the ER with COVID MineralMan Sep 2021 #24

Remarkable day. She may have in some sense gone well before, Hortensis Sep 2021 #25

Yes. MineralMan Sep 2021 #26

Bottom of the list for any in hospital treatment. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #5

You can't get on the transplant list if you're drinking Arazi Sep 2021 #6

Standard of care KentuckyWoman Sep 2021 #7

In the end, LW&Ts, DNRs, Advanced Directives are the patient's choice Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #12

Great point. marble falls Sep 2021 #8

Giving them oxygen is fine as all you need for that is a cannula and a canister of oxygen. cstanleytech Sep 2021 #9

The willfully unvaccinated simply don't care citizen blues Sep 2021 #11

This is a 90% truly ugly thread Hekate Sep 2021 #15

It certainly is and it's disgusting. 👎 nt Raine Sep 2021 #17

It's a 100% ugly situation our county's stuck in right now. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #23

It's not to punish alcoholics, it's because they're unlikely to survive Raine Sep 2021 #16

No, they are not. Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #18

This is not true ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #20

Here is the problem with your proposal BoycottTimHortons Sep 2021 #21

Why aren't they at the bottom of the list for lung transplants? Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #22

The fact that a.person is an alcoholic doesn't put them at the bottom of the list StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #27