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porphyrian

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109. Votes will win this election for President Obama.

Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:55 AM

Oct 2012

The idea that the debates or witty quips will make enough of a difference to swing the election at this point is a myth. Any undecided voters remaining at this point are just as likely to forget to vote on Election Day as they are to bother doing so. We already have record turnout in absentee and early voting, both of which favor President Obama two or three to one, and there will likely be record turnout on Election Day. This makes any attempt to steal the vote statistically too difficult to try without getting caught, though that doesn't mean some republican won't get busted trying anyway. In spite of all of this, the media has a profit motive for promoting a horse race, even if it has to lie about it, as there is still too much PAC money out there for them to harvest, and they intend to milk them for every drop. So, for your sanity, don't believe the hype. Vote. Make sure everyone you know votes.

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Yeah, fuck me but I don't think Big Bird, binders, or Romnesia will carry the election... [View all] cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 OP

The polls aren't going in the wrong direction. Lex Oct 2012 #1

Okay. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #2

Au contraire, mon ami. Ridicule and mockery are extremely effective The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #3

Exactly right. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #9

I'm up to go to work at 5 a.m. I'm in bed at 9 p.m. I don't see Letterman or Leno. SNL lost its cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #14

OK, that's YOU. That's not millions of other people The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #16

actually, Gore didn't lose. grasswire Oct 2012 #26

I am quite aware of that. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #34

grasswire was responding to the other poster (n/t) spooky3 Oct 2012 #47

It's way past your bed time. n/t Turborama Oct 2012 #63

Actually, it is you who are mistaken. It is in exactly these ways that low-info voters get the cleanhippie Oct 2012 #107

Agreed! ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #18

The Globe this week goclark Oct 2012 #58

"Yeah, fuck me..." Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #4

I think the President knows the "how to get votes" game demwing Oct 2012 #5

The economy is really perking up Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #89

+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2012 #113

The lovely thing about America is Free Speech. You can have your opinion. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #6

You're too idealistic. A humorous wisecrack often seals the deal. reformist2 Oct 2012 #7

Yes and yes. Humor has power when it is based on truth. KurtNYC Oct 2012 #56

actually i think a vague "plan" with no details is a better strategy renegade000 Oct 2012 #8

I could not disagree with you more... cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #10

Drip drip drip. This stuff is cumulative. Dukakis in a tank alone didn't cost him the election, Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #11

Yep. I was actually a Repug back then (sorry), and that campaign still makes me laugh. reformist2 Oct 2012 #99

The Cult Bishop is just to weird to be President flamingdem Oct 2012 #12

This is the twitter election. Every new meme happens within a day or hours. Jennicut Oct 2012 #13

"the twitter election" cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #20

All the people I know tweet. And text. Jennicut Oct 2012 #25

And... EVERYTHING you read on twitter is the honest truth. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #31

You know what else is the honest truth? theKed Oct 2012 #96

Boomers might vote in large numbers BarackTheVote Oct 2012 #28

I am in my thirties and use twitter regularly. Jennicut Oct 2012 #30

EXCUSE ME? aquart Oct 2012 #33

Good for you. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #39

I don't, either. Obviously, however, many people do. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #36

I'm 62, a boomer, and I tweet and text... and use a smartphone. Waiting For Everyman Oct 2012 #41

I'm almost 62 and have accounts on Twitter, Facebook, and a number of message boards... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #73

15% of online Americans now use Twitter pintobean Oct 2012 #100

I'm only a few years younger than you, and I know a boatload of people who Tweet. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #102

I'm 50 too and I tweet Liberalynn Oct 2012 #104

You and other rational people will vote for Obama anyway. Live and Learn Oct 2012 #114

Starting a post with "Yeah, fuck me" will not carry the election, blue neen Oct 2012 #15

5 words TINA FEY turned the tide Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #17

So you're betting the future of the country on Tina Fey and Sarah Palin? cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #22

Yeah, they lost in 2008, in part, because Palin was relentlessly mocked. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #46

AND it took a woman to break the taboo so Palin was less of a victim. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #119

+1! Indpndnt Oct 2012 #121

NO, I'm saying that EVERY weapon in the aresenal should be used, don't discount humor and sarcasm. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #118

They need to push a theme to the end creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author BKW Oct 2012 #21

funny, I see Obama do that regularly. List his accomplishments. grasswire Oct 2012 #23

Me, too. Bolo Boffin Oct 2012 #45

Did you forget that the MSM picks the parts they want to show apples and oranges Oct 2012 #24

Your concern is noted and filed appropriately. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #27

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #29

In your own words: "Ridicule and mockery aren't going to cut it, folks". blue neen Oct 2012 #35

big bird makes me happy, unlike this thread trailmonkee Oct 2012 #42

An informed electorate making rational decisions upi402 Oct 2012 #38

it's a shame that issues aren't the focus southmost Oct 2012 #32

It eats news cycles Samjm Oct 2012 #37

Yes because "i can see Russia" and "flip flop" were very ineffective TheDonkey Oct 2012 #40

Three things: ProSense Oct 2012 #43

Thank you for the FACTS. Lex Oct 2012 #44

You're welcome. Remember this: ProSense Oct 2012 #51

That's great, except for two things: Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #66

None of the clips are from the convention. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #76

That is what makes a catchphrase like "Romnesia" works, but you need to use it TheDonkey Oct 2012 #85

Where will this be shown? Qutzupalotl Oct 2012 #123

It's not an either/or thing. Different types of messages reach different people. spooky3 Oct 2012 #48

I guess that's probably true. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #69

Exactly. Even on DU users attach themselves to different formats and issues. nt Live and Learn Oct 2012 #115

The big job now is to get voters committed to Obama out to vote. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #49

I would agree that... Jim Engle Oct 2012 #50

You're trying too hard Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #55

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean. n/t Jim Engle Oct 2012 #78

You're following a script Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #80

I guess I am trying to say... Jim Engle Oct 2012 #81

That's not the kind of script I'm talking about Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #84

Thank you.. Jim Engle Oct 2012 #86

So you've changed your mind and you're voting for Obama? Kennah Oct 2012 #91

Pretty good choice on a user name as well. Easier to hide. Kennah Oct 2012 #90

I respect your opinion Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #52

It's my party and I'll mock who I want to Kalidurga Oct 2012 #53

Bob Shrum? DefenseLawyer Oct 2012 #54

Please proceed.... Viking12 Oct 2012 #57

@Cherokeeprogressive serbbral Oct 2012 #59

I love the irony Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #60

@Floyd serbbral Oct 2012 #68

I don't disagree on the shelf life Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #72

Voting is under way. At some point the election is about momentum and it helps to feel KurtNYC Oct 2012 #61

You're exactly right. This race is as close as it is, because the President has not Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #62

Maybe, ProSense Oct 2012 #64

Maybe the American people have missed it all. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #65

Carville, Greenberg Say Obama Economy Message Is Working ProSense Oct 2012 #79

@ Common Sense Party serbbral Oct 2012 #74

Just in case you hadn't noticed.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #77

I would say he's done the first and second fairly well... ellisonz Oct 2012 #82

I would say a joke should not go longer than one news cycle, during one day. If it is a good applegrove Oct 2012 #67

It's all about perception and image, and the right wing knows that, and does the mockery big time begin_within Oct 2012 #70

Let's just say the Obama campaign hasn't exactly been a model of how a campaign starting quinnox Oct 2012 #71

I agree somewhat. PO has done GREAT Sebass1271 Oct 2012 #75

You have a knack for being wrong. jsmirman Oct 2012 #83

I've noticed that as well, fwiw. Electric Monk Oct 2012 #92

OP also has a knack for xenophobic racism Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #93

That brings up a point. Occulus Oct 2012 #106

The OP also whined about alleged intolerance against Christians on DU months ago Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #108

LOL. I knew the term "Romnesia" would piss someone like you off Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #87

romnesia = LIAR ... just more polite..might not work to be more overt.. amborin Oct 2012 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #94

You mean like the first debate? JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #95

This is the portion of his stump speech Skidmore Oct 2012 #97

A good humorous bite theKed Oct 2012 #98

Romensia is a way to say 'Mitt is a liar' with some humor. Sticks like glue. Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #101

Bullshit. Policy doesn't win over the apolitical people who only pay attention TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #103

Everything matters. You never know what the catalyst will be to change a vote. Lucinda Oct 2012 #105

I call it the "fence post" theory.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #116

Votes will win this election for President Obama. porphyrian Oct 2012 #109

Consider yourself fucked. Frank Cannon Oct 2012 #110

I hear ya hiphopnation Oct 2012 #111

Excuse me but your OP is utter nonsense rbrnmw Oct 2012 #112

+100 demwing Oct 2012 #120

Romnesia might have legs, it is a way to call the man a liar without saying the word LIAR krawhitham Oct 2012 #117

you're being dishonest about us and about Obama by saying these are our only campaign tactics CreekDog Oct 2012 #122