General Discussion

RAB910

(4,030 posts) Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:08 AM Sep 2021

If Gabby Petito had brown skin, would it be the national story we are witnessing? [View all]

Last edited Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:53 AM - Edit history (1)

White with blond hair = national story + massive law enforcement effort

205 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

If Gabby Petito had brown skin, would it be the national story we are witnessing? [View all] RAB910 Sep 2021 OP

No. we can do it Sep 2021 #1

Sadly, I think you are correct. Movies and TV shows love to show women tied up Walleye Sep 2021 #2

No, we wouldn't Bettie Sep 2021 #3

I'm not sure if its that clean cut Amishman Sep 2021 #175

And, maybe not if she was white and ugly Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #184

Agreed Amishman Sep 2021 #205

White is the common denominator StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #185

No Duncanpup Sep 2021 #4

Probably not - the TV audience would be smaller and the story wouldn't pull the same ratings Klaralven Sep 2021 #5

It might make the evening news once Clash City Rocker Sep 2021 #6

How many Native American, Hispanic, Refugee, Asian, (human trafficking) and women of color ... Botany Sep 2021 #7

Not that many, given these are minority populations treestar Sep 2021 #76

No. There is always a missing or dead white girl story going on. Tomconroy Sep 2021 #8

..and there are more missing / dead males yet males also participate in media frenzy Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #126

Thank you! Always nice to know someone is reading my posts! Tomconroy Sep 2021 #132

Media coverage doesn't equal justice. This country doesn't give a shit about violence against WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #9

Agree, but justice isn't blind either Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #12

I don't consider an arrest and an incarceration to be "justice." WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #13

What? What does justice mean then...you catch the guilty party...now granted as I have Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #52

It means she would have gotten the help she needed before it ever came to her death. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #78

I see. I completely agree...justice delayed (in this case) is for sure justice denied...thanks, I Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #140

+1. Green River killer got away for so long for this reason also, radius777 Sep 2021 #199

It wouldn't Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #10

This one got attention because she's a Youtube star LeftInTX Sep 2021 #18

6000 subscribers is a star? Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #19

I see 17K, but once word gets out, everyone will click and you don't need to subscribe. LeftInTX Sep 2021 #20

a week ago they had 326 subs Celerity Sep 2021 #116

They were gaining followers...and were on the upswing. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #50

But this gave the press lots of video to work with- a meticulously recorded road trip &police videos womanofthehills Sep 2021 #55

Schulte and Turner are lesbians, radius777 Sep 2021 #200

6000? A week ago they had 326 subs. This whole (not by you) 'they were stars' meme is bullshit Celerity Sep 2021 #115

+1. Agree, the meme itself, and more importantly radius777 Sep 2021 #201

I found the story compelling and I had no idea she was a "star". NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #29

I got obsessed with the Tylee and JJ disappearance LeftInTX Sep 2021 #65

Young, pretty and seemingly innocent makes many feel sorry for her. honest.abe Sep 2021 #22

Young pretty and WHITE StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #24

Sure that is a factor but there is more to the story than that. honest.abe Sep 2021 #26

Really? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #28

Vanessa Guillen was a huge national media story honest.abe Sep 2021 #31

Pointing to the one time someone not white was covered doesn't answer my question StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #34

The question.. "Can you point to anytime in the last, say, 20 years" honest.abe Sep 2021 #37

You're ignoring that there are a lot more white women in America. RestoRay Sep 2021 #130

Ew don't add logic to convo. :) Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2021 #183

It took a while for this to get attention. Latina Celebrities and other major Latina figures were JI7 Sep 2021 #41

Do you think her military service was the hook? RAB910 Sep 2021 #64

Absolutely. It has drawn attention to Ft Hood LeftInTX Sep 2021 #68

It's because she was a soldier. If she was a regular MVP Kamala Sep 2021 #195

There is no doubt the media goes with pretty and white. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #32

20 yrs ago we did not record everthing we do - we have good videos of Gabby eating organic dinner, womanofthehills Sep 2021 #63

And yet, 20 years ago, cable news managed to still do saturation coverage of missing white women StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #71

Agree Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #27

True. But I am amazed - although I shouldn't be given other things I've seen here StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #30

Yeah Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #33

Yup. And that WE'RE causing the racial divide in America StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #36

Can't agree more Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #38

I wish to God I could disagree with you. LanternWaste Sep 2021 #147

It's weird how so many white people seem to know that "racist" is a bad thing to be...... ShazzieB Sep 2021 #189

Excellent point! StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #191

No doubt that national coverage favors white women, but TheProle Sep 2021 #98

This discussion is about how national media covers these stories StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #111

Thank you TheProle Sep 2021 #121

You are welcome StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #125

Pretty may be the key treestar Sep 2021 #75

You're grasping at straws StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #84

Exactly! You could turn on Forensic Files randomly MVP Kamala Sep 2021 #194

Yes StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #197

NOT AT ALL SallyHemmings Sep 2021 #11

I was thinking the same thing. Kablooie Sep 2021 #14

On local news, most likely Lulu KC Sep 2021 #172

In the overwhelming majority of cases, no. GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #15

They should try us. I think they'd be surprised how many people would care. n/t NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #35

Exactly. They often perpetuate bias by assuming what their audience is want to see StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #39

My sentiments, exactly! nt GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #44

the chances a person is white are greater since there treestar Sep 2021 #51

Forty percent of the population is non-white or mixed race. GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #83

Very true - attractive is likely the key treestar Sep 2021 #178

How many pretty women of color whose disappearances have gotten this kind of coverage can you cite? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #186

Yes NJCher Sep 2021 #16

How many pretty young Black victims have gotten this kind of coverage? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #25

if you regularly watch crime shows NJCher Sep 2021 #45

We're not talking a out "crime shows " StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #48

re-read, please NJCher Sep 2021 #56

No need for me to re-read it - I read your entire post before I responded to it StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #66

prove you know what I'm saying NJCher Sep 2021 #69

Or you can assume StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #73

for the record, then NJCher Sep 2021 #74

I agree completely. I like to see this story get publicity and others as it might make some women Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #43

Not to seem indifferent. Etherealoc1 Sep 2021 #17

Well you do seem indifferent. This happens to women of all colors. And it is a terrible thing. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #46

Um that was rhetorical Etherealoc1 Sep 2021 #101

I really think she was going get followers as the van thing is big right now. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #139

no nt Celerity Sep 2021 #21

Be careful StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #23

I actually don't know Johonny Sep 2021 #40

Ask yourself these questions StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #42

If 7% of the stories cover black women that would be about right.. EX500rider Sep 2021 #103

That's a silly argument StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #112

Yeah, no EX500rider Sep 2021 #129

I should have been more specific StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #131

Even if you assume the percentage of women who are missing/murdered is the same NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #136

Exactly StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #138

"Unless you know the percentages " EX500rider Sep 2021 #180

Because I'm not claiming the population percentages should drive the coverage StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #182

Actually you are the one claiming it should be based on percentages of crimes by race. EX500rider Sep 2021 #198

No - that's not what I claimed StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #203

Here is her van life video- it says a lot! womanofthehills Sep 2021 #142

She was an after the fact social media influencer RAB910 Sep 2021 #59

That's sort of my point Johonny Sep 2021 #72

No. Iggo Sep 2021 #47

Yes, if she were doing the same thing on you tube treestar Sep 2021 #49

Can you name any missing Black women who got national coverage like this? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #53

She was an after the fact social media influencer RAB910 Sep 2021 #58

She wouldn't have had that if she weren't attractive treestar Sep 2021 #179

this is more or less what America has been reduced to BannonsLiver Sep 2021 #82

Well that settles it for me. BannonsLiver Sep 2021 #54

No. Goodheart Sep 2021 #57

YES!! The social media following perpetuated this coverage Baltimike Sep 2021 #60

She was an after the fact social media influencer RAB910 Sep 2021 #61

But those thousand were the alarm ringers Baltimike Sep 2021 #108

Probably not, although a large segment of Virginia phylny Sep 2021 #62

Maybe, if she was hot, if Gabby weighed 350 lbs, would it be national news? Hot young sexy sells Shanti Shanti Shanti Sep 2021 #67

Kind of a sad murder mystery at this point, need to see how it ends. Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #70

I agree it probably wouldn't be a national story but you're missing the reasons why. RestoRay Sep 2021 #77

Two letters. OJ nt joetheman Sep 2021 #79

So you aren't interested in white or black victims? marble falls Sep 2021 #85

I wouldn't put it that way. RestoRay Sep 2021 #100

Why is it always seeming to be 'cute', white females? How much more likely is it that a black ... marble falls Sep 2021 #104

Because the media is a business based on eyeballs. RestoRay Sep 2021 #107

So it is a racist decision. marble falls Sep 2021 #109

I wouldn't call it racist. RestoRay Sep 2021 #110

You think that the networks should only cover stories about people based upon whether StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #113

I think the networks are only interested in stories that will gain the most attention. RestoRay Sep 2021 #135

Seriously? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #137

No one is defending anything. RestoRay Sep 2021 #141

Do you have statistics showing the numbers of white women kidnapped and murdered versus StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #144

If you have a source to those stats I'll take a look. RestoRay Sep 2021 #149

What you think and what is are two different things StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #154

If you have a source that proves my assumption wrong, please provide a link. RestoRay Sep 2021 #155

I don't need to prove your assumption wrong StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #156

Yes you do. RestoRay Sep 2021 #159

Lol - you have no idea how this works, do you? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #160

This is just getting bizzare. RestoRay Sep 2021 #163

You can use a calculator and the Census website to prove the stats I'm talking about. RestoRay Sep 2021 #157

You're comparing apples and oranges StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #158

It has everything to do with overall population. RestoRay Sep 2021 #161

Percentage of the population is not the determinant of who gets coverage on particular stories StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #162

Ok so you just don't understand the media business at all. RestoRay Sep 2021 #165

LOL. I understand the "media business" quite well StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #168

Less An Excuse Than A Theory I Think... Jim G. Sep 2021 #150

And what's perceived as "sexy" is often seen through a racial prism StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #152

I Suppose You Can Make Anything "Racial" If That's Your Intention Jim G. Sep 2021 #166

Because if Black people and our allies didn't make everything "racial" ... You know the rest StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #167

+1 BannonsLiver Sep 2021 #171

There are three dead women, maybe more DenaliDemocrat Sep 2021 #80

You might also consider all the true crime stories on TV/cable joetheman Sep 2021 #81

I don't remember the last time a black woman was in CNN for 5 days Sabrielo Sep 2021 #86

I do! Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction at the Super Bowl in 2004. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #146

Lol Sabrielo Sep 2021 #181

If she was an attractive and young Black or Hispanic woman? Absolutely. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #87

Do you think that no attractive black, or Hispanic women have burned murdered by their boyfriends? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #89

I guarantee there are hundreds of white women missing at this moment... Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #91

The fact that every single murdered white woman does not get coverage StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #94

I outlined my reasoning. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #96

It is the same reason... LiberatedUSA Sep 2021 #164

Oh boy. That's another hornets nest you don't want to kick here... Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #190

Yep. honest.abe Sep 2021 #95

A black girl like this would get attention of the media Klaralven Sep 2021 #90

I think any attractive person would. Drunken Irishman Sep 2021 #93

You think that no attractive young black women have ever been missing or murdered? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #120

No ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #88

I hope not to sound shallow by mentioning a movie... Chili Sep 2021 #169

About the 10th GD OP making this same point maxsolomon Sep 2021 #92

It's known as DUronic lame54 Sep 2021 #97

Oh I would do it. Considered it even ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #99

Just go on websleuths.com. There are a ton of white women who go missing every SweetieD Sep 2021 #102

Social media impact, undoubtedly, live video cams, the whole thing playing out in real time, almost Shanti Shanti Shanti Sep 2021 #134

She got the pretty and she got the white sammythecat Sep 2021 #105

and YOUNG Skittles Sep 2021 #143

Probably not, but her family plays a big role in the media attention too. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #106

Numerous black families have begged the media to cover their missing female family members StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #114

I've been following the recent mass graves of indigenous children ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #117

it gets worse...black females are often portrayed as prostitutes... in the category of "risky behavi Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #118

Anyone with even the slightest "blemishes" in their histories will likely get it shared... Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #124

Canada had a serial killer running around. the case was solved when he killed a white male, he Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #128

I'm not too surprised, and such inconsistencies are wrong. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #119

The inconsistencies are indeed annoying StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #122

Probably not but.... kentuck Sep 2021 #123

I can say without even really knowing.... JuJuChen Sep 2021 #127

I really don't understand why people have a problem acknowledging that our media ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #133

Fascinating, isn't it? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #145

Yeah I am disturbed by this, but unfortunately not surprised ismnotwasm Sep 2021 #148

This OP is quite disturbing mcar Sep 2021 #173

It is, isn't it? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #174

The percentage of the US population thing is nuts mcar Sep 2021 #176

It's completely nuts. And utterly desperate StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #177

International. meadowlander Sep 2021 #151

Undoubtedly not misanthrope Sep 2021 #153

no Chili Sep 2021 #170

If she had a YouTube channel with 40K followers, probably TexasBushwhacker Sep 2021 #187

Did she have 40k YouTube followers when she disappeared? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #188

I don't have a problem saying race MAY (your words) play a role TexasBushwhacker Sep 2021 #193

Can you cite any young, pretty Black or brown women whose disappearance StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #196

We had a local story that was pretty big. However, it did not hit the national media too much LeftInTX Sep 2021 #202

We're not talking about local coverage. We're talking about national coverage StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #204

NO MVP Kamala Sep 2021 #192