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MineralMan

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58. Well, it wouldn't have been smart for NBC News to do that.

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 03:49 PM

Sep 2021

Look at it another way, though. NBC News and all of he other media outlets aired Twitlers speeches almost universally. I didn't have to watch those speeches, though, so I didn't.

The US government did not have to "squash" Hitler's speeches. There was no need to do so. And the networks carried Trumps speeches because he was, amazingly, POTUS. Pretty much anything a US President says is news, by definition. What foreign leaders say is pretty much not news, though, on a regular basis.

Most Internet social media venues are international in nature to some degree. So, pretty much anything can be found on them. They have members and audiences all over the planet.

What US-based news programs present is certainly protected by the First Amendment. It's that pesky 'free press" clause, isn't it?

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Suggesting that Facebook, YouTube, or whatever should be shut down is folly. [View all] MineralMan Sep 2021 OP

Well said Srkdqltr Sep 2021 #1

Exactly. Anyone who wants to quash speech they dislike MineralMan Sep 2021 #3

Does the entire world have the same 1A rights? Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #16

Oddly, I have never seen any of that on my FB feed. MineralMan Sep 2021 #24

Whether you've seen it, or it's universal, is irrelevant ... Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #27

I actually don't see anything political on my feed, except MineralMan Sep 2021 #28

Go back to my first question in the header of my first post ... Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #34

My understanding is if it's distributed in the US, 1A covers it. CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #37

So, the 1A leaves us 100% vulnerable, under all conditions, to foreign propaganda manipulating Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #40

Well, it wouldn't have been smart for NBC News to do that. MineralMan Sep 2021 #58

What the critics don't understand is what they see on Facebook, YouTube, etc... RestoRay Sep 2021 #56

We used to say, I hate what you just said, but I would die for your right to say it... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #19

Leave YouTube alone!. I'm watching vids on fermenting tomatoes. Kaleva Sep 2021 #2

Yeah! I'm watching videos of volcanoes in Iceland and MineralMan Sep 2021 #4

Same here. I find it to be a great resource that's costs me nothing but time Kaleva Sep 2021 #5

I saved money on an appliance repair bill Mme. Defarge Sep 2021 #6

Yes. I replaced a belt on my clothes dryer after MineralMan Sep 2021 #7

Amazon! Mme. Defarge Sep 2021 #11

Yes, pretty much anything you might want can be found MineralMan Sep 2021 #25

As a professional contractor who gets calls from my customers to fix everything that breaks... CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #41

I've fixed the microwave, fridge, washer, dryer and dishwasher watching Youtube. Kaleva Sep 2021 #12

There are great tutorials on quilting. YouTube is great. Srkdqltr Sep 2021 #8

Or watch what you want! Nt USALiberal Sep 2021 #47

Of course. Srkdqltr Sep 2021 #60

Social media is the peoples media leftstreet Sep 2021 #9

I agree that we can't shut those platforms down. Haggard Celine Sep 2021 #10

The library divides books into fiction and non-fiction. There is no such division on social media Kaleva Sep 2021 #13

And at the library, not all books classified as non-fiction are true either. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #15

You are correct but I was trying to make a very generalized point. Kaleva Sep 2021 #20

I know what you me. But truth is relative anf not often black and white...except for math of course Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #70

As a lifetime bookshop guy, that's one of the maxims I live by. Harker Sep 2021 #38

You are right about that! NoSheep Sep 2021 #43

Consider there is no constitution mandate that free speech only applies top that speech which Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #17

I agree with you. We can't have the good without the bad. Kaleva Sep 2021 #23

You will never stop some from believing stupid crap... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #18

I understand your position, and I can sympathize. Haggard Celine Sep 2021 #30

It's like shutting down the phone company. RestoRay Sep 2021 #64

Exactly right. I use Facebook for family stuff delete political posts and block the poster. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #14

Agreed. But we can ridicule it by name-calling it what it is: FaRcebook. Justice matters. Sep 2021 #21

Interestingly enough, that is a judgment you can make quite easily. MineralMan Sep 2021 #29

Regulated. NT. Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #22

Hmm....Like movies used to be? MineralMan Sep 2021 #26

Not like movies as movies are massively Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #59

"No yelling fire in a crowded nation" regulation is needed. Hortensis Sep 2021 #44

I think there is an argument for both antitrust and FCC interventions Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #31

Except there's no legal difference between a publisher & a platform. CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #53

Well laws and regulations must make clear "platforms" can't pass on liability to users via TOS Fiendish Thingy Sep 2021 #68

don't ban, but hold them legally liable for the content that they publish Oliver Bolliver Butt Sep 2021 #32

Add to which... brooklynite Sep 2021 #33

Agree 100%. So is saying they should be "broken up." CaptainTruth Sep 2021 #35

Prohibition never works. Xolodno Sep 2021 #36

KnR Hekate Sep 2021 #39

Every time I mention Facebook here... Orrex Sep 2021 #42

There's never a shortage of people to tell you what you shouldn't do. MineralMan Sep 2021 #46

As in "You shouldn't talk smack about Facebook"? dpibel Sep 2021 #65

Thank you! Someone has to clarify the issues on eliminating platforms, & you're the person to do it. ancianita Sep 2021 #45

You're too kind! MineralMan Sep 2021 #49

Yeah I hate what Facebook has turned this country into. Initech Sep 2021 #48

It's not Facebook that has done that. MineralMan Sep 2021 #50

My point is that there's trolls everywhere. Initech Sep 2021 #54

I'm sorry, but I see none of that anywhere I go on the Internet. MineralMan Sep 2021 #55

So you've generalized your experience. Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #62

What he's saying is anyone else can have the same experience. RestoRay Sep 2021 #66

Oh now you've demonstrated Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #61

Oh yeah I agree. I don't use Facebook. Initech Sep 2021 #63

Just about everyone I know on FB is liberal or moderate Sugarcoated Sep 2021 #51

Yeah, me too, except for a few family members who MineralMan Sep 2021 #52

Agreed Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #57

I s'pose suggesting Facebook to shut down is as practical, valid and realistic as... LanternWaste Sep 2021 #67

The problem isn't Facebook. The problem is people with no critical thinking skills. hunter Sep 2021 #69

Facebook is more than just "expression" right now uponit7771 Sep 2021 #71