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localroger

(3,782 posts)
7. While this is appealing, it is also a deeply terrible idea
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:05 PM
Sep 2021

If these companies were sharing black lists of people fired for union organizing we would be screaming bloody murder. The justification for letting companies refuse service to anyone for any reason (with narrow specifically enumerated exceptions) is that you can always do business with someone else. When one company becomes an effective monopoly and they ban you without recourse, it can ruin your life even if the reason you were banned was a misunderstanding or a bad day. (Facebook and Google, I'm looking at you.) Making the blacklists global among all the companies in a competitive industry has the same effect, and was used very effectively to suppress workers' rights activism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Yes there are a lot of assholes out there and something needs to be done about them, but these bans can also be arbitrary and there is effectively no due process or reasonable expiration of your penalty. This is bad. It was bad when it was done to those who were fighting for us, and it's bad when it's done to people we don't like because it is unfair and draconian.

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I feel certain United and American will comply. I hope the smaller ones will as well. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #1
Southwest Too ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #14
1,600 is a lot of people in a fairly short time! Sad there are so many JAs in the world. I hope napi21 Sep 2021 #2
I'm a Delta FF, and I heartily approve of this... bahboo Sep 2021 #3
Fast forward? Fan fiction? Blecht Sep 2021 #10
Frequent Flyer is my guess. nt leftieNanner Sep 2021 #11
Why would ANY airline refuse to cooperate on this? Probably none.... tableturner Sep 2021 #4
We need vaccine passports and to exclude/shun assholes who refuse to be vaccinated LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #5
+1,000! SheltieLover Sep 2021 #29
Should be federal in this case. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #6
Agreed dv421 Sep 2021 #8
While this is appealing, it is also a deeply terrible idea localroger Sep 2021 #7
+1 fescuerescue Sep 2021 #13
I disagree Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #15
So you trust corporate entities... localroger Sep 2021 #24
Probably more than I trust the people on them Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #34
Not saying it's never happened Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #21
That law exists because... localroger Sep 2021 #23
there are all kinds of lists shared that could affect almost anyone..... getagrip_already Sep 2021 #25
And many of those lists have been reformed by legislation localroger Sep 2021 #32
no, not good at all..... getagrip_already Sep 2021 #41
Apples & Oranges IMO KS Toronado Sep 2021 #26
That's quite true if you are totally 100% certain that everyone on the list actually deserves it localroger Sep 2021 #36
Lol BannonsLiver Sep 2021 #40
"LOL" isn't much of a critique. Why is it so funny? localroger Sep 2021 #42
I'm all for fewer crazies in the air (n/t) Patton French Sep 2021 #9
Yea. That has no chance to backfire at all fescuerescue Sep 2021 #12
Disagree ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #16
They haven't prosecuted anyone??? Geesh..... LeftInTX Sep 2021 #17
Misdemeanors ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #20
So have you seen the corporate minutes? fescuerescue Sep 2021 #31
You then believe the airlines sharing a list should be illegal? LanternWaste Sep 2021 #35
Ask the railroads localroger Sep 2021 #37
It's illegal to do so for employees fescuerescue Sep 2021 #38
Completely disagree. Have you ever been on a flight with one of the loud, obnoxious tRumpists? Raster Sep 2021 #18
Major corporations are RARELY on our side fescuerescue Sep 2021 #30
Not to mention localroger Sep 2021 #33
There is a federal no-fly list IronLionZion Sep 2021 #19
I think they should be banned for a year. LeftInTX Sep 2021 #22
Sounds good, and a fine or criminal charges if they were violent. IronLionZion Sep 2021 #27
The FAA does fine. And they don't need to press charges. LeftInTX Sep 2021 #28
I'm on board with this. Causing chaos and havoc at 30,000 feet is a good enough reason for me. Treefrog Sep 2021 #39
Good Idea. I hope they do it. Captain Stern Sep 2021 #43
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