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78. I merely stated that had Nader not been on the ballot,

Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:38 PM

Sep 2021

Gore would have won, which you appear to agree with.

I didn't blame him for anything, he was the focus of the OP and I made a comment about him. Had the OP been about butterfly ballots I might have made the observation that THEY cost Gore the election. Each can stand on their own... combining them makes the eventual outcome even more lamentable.

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Ralph Nader lied about this wonderful car. [View all] Casady1 Sep 2021 OP

Well, if so, it wasn't all that he lied about... hlthe2b Sep 2021 #1

Yes, he did, and ruined US automaker's innovations MineralMan Sep 2021 #2

My uncle also had one, and he loved it obamanut2012 Sep 2021 #14

And had he not decided to run as a 3rd party candidate in 2000 Equomba Sep 2021 #3

I used to like 3rd-partiers too. People who reject everything "mainstream" Hortensis Sep 2021 #11

well said. dsp3000 Sep 2021 #47

Why do you assume that third-party voters would have voted Dem otherwise? DickKessler Sep 2021 #72

That assumes Nader voters would have voted Dem, or that the GOP wouldn't still steal the election. DickKessler Sep 2021 #71

Without Nader on the ballot, the recount would not have ocurred and Equomba Sep 2021 #74

And without the Florida GOP purge of Black voters and the butterfly ballots, Gore would have won FL. DickKessler Sep 2021 #75

I merely stated that had Nader not been on the ballot, Equomba Sep 2021 #78

I think Ralph Nader is a fraud on many levels... Mazeltov Cocktail Sep 2021 #4

Why do I care what a guy with $450 million has to say about a car? Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #5

If he's "not in your world".... BradAllison Sep 2021 #16

Hehe, very funny Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #49

Jay Leno earned his money honestly. I don't begrudge that kind of wealth. hunter Sep 2021 #59

As multi-millionaires go he's not the worse Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #62

I can recall the exact moment I rejected life as a potential multi-millionaire. hunter Sep 2021 #69

But can you remember when you decided not to abuse others? Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #73

LOL Xoan Sep 2021 #22

The poster's referring to Jay Leno Sympthsical Sep 2021 #31

The Corsa, contained a crapload of "Fixes".... bobalew Sep 2021 #6

That is actually untrue Casady1 Sep 2021 #10

Come to San Martin, Ca. and test drive some of them.. Then express your opinion... bobalew Sep 2021 #20

and so was I. Casady1 Sep 2021 #28

Our first new car snowybirdie Sep 2021 #7

I loved my Corvair. I thought it was a great car. SharonAnn Sep 2021 #8

My 1st car, I had 2 ... Nader didn't kill them dweller Sep 2021 #9

Early Porsche 911s were also legendary for their tendency to swap ends if one drove too hot into sop Sep 2021 #12

the early Porshe's (365) Casady1 Sep 2021 #13

Mid and Rear Engine Cars Are Tank Slappers... ruet Sep 2021 #53

Nope, GM botched their response to the book UnderThisLaw Sep 2021 #15

Yep. It's amazing what people apparently defend now that Nader hurt their fee fees. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2021 #19

It's all because of 2000. DickKessler Sep 2021 #76

Yet they video you post says the Mustang killed the Corvair Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2021 #17

Leno's opinion Casady1 Sep 2021 #18

What about the other chapters of that book? Did they hate America? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2021 #21

I was 14 when that book came out Casady1 Sep 2021 #34

That's interesting UnderThisLaw Sep 2021 #40

You should have seen the press at the time Casady1 Sep 2021 #43

I kind of think UnderThisLaw Sep 2021 #44

If I could have a vintage car, it would be a white top convertible turquoise Covair LakeArenal Sep 2021 #23

It is one of the better values Casady1 Sep 2021 #25

This. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #27

you would want Casady1 Sep 2021 #29

Thanks. My dream gets more detailed❣️ LakeArenal Sep 2021 #30

That is a beauty Casady1 Sep 2021 #32

I own one of these Casady1 Sep 2021 #36

Sigh. That's very cool. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #54

The first modern car Casady1 Sep 2021 #55

Nader was a complete asshat. Self-aggrandizing egomaniacal weasel. Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #24

Ralph is living proof only the good die young. BannonsLiver Sep 2021 #26

Yeah, like Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter progressoid Sep 2021 #45

Exceptions that prove the rule. BannonsLiver Sep 2021 #46

It's not whataboutism progressoid Sep 2021 #50

Learned to drive in a Corvair Monza. Great little care back when most cars were huge. Hoyt Sep 2021 #33

That's my memory of the Volkswagens my dad always bought. hunter Sep 2021 #42

I had a covair spyder....loved it spanone Sep 2021 #35

Modern cars were developed in the 1980's. hunter Sep 2021 #37

The first truly modern car Casady1 Sep 2021 #41

One of my brothers had a 510. hunter Sep 2021 #51

we used to have a saying Casady1 Sep 2021 #52

It makes me sad when you call the 60's the "bad old days". That's the era when I started to napi21 Sep 2021 #48

They were developed before the 1980s in Europe and Japan Klaralven Sep 2021 #65

"The last US automotive innovation seems to have been the Bendix electric starter...." mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #67

Most of those things were in limited production as options on a few models. Klaralven Sep 2021 #68

Always heard that Nader never had a driver's license in his entire life MichMan Sep 2021 #38

Personally, I'm more UnderThisLaw Sep 2021 #39

Harvard trained attorney who got his info from hundreds of filed cases against the auto mfrs. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2021 #58

The original Corvairs did have an oversteer problem which could lead to upsets on turns. yellowcanine Sep 2021 #56

swing axles were on Porches and VW's Casady1 Sep 2021 #57

I had a major 'no steer' problem driving a Corvair. The car was so back end heavy, that ... Brother Mythos Sep 2021 #77

The video states the Ralph Nader cause the car to be produced for more years. cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 #60

And says nothing about rigging some test. No evidence provided for claims made. Celerity Sep 2021 #61

this probably explains it Casady1 Sep 2021 #64

Covairs were some of the flimsiest, shittiest cars ever built Champp Sep 2021 #63

The car that Nader called "unsafe at any speed" wasn't the Corvair. It was mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #66

What's the point of this thread? DickKessler Sep 2021 #70

Which is dumber, the 66 Corvair thread or the Dogs Are Too Expensive thread? Bucky Sep 2021 #79