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davidn3600

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52. It's likely they would be under tremendous pressure to vote their state's popular vote

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 07:02 PM

Oct 2012

In other words, say a state went for Romney but has more Democrat representatives in the House (or vice-versa). That vote would be a very difficult decision for that delegation. They either have to choose to turn their back on their party or vote against what the people in the state wanted.

So it's not as easy as adding up R's and D's. It can get complicated.
But there are more red states than blue states because Democrats are more concentrated in the bigger states. So I would say at this point Romney would have the upper hand in the event of an electoral tie. It looks like the Senate will stay with the Dems. So Biden would be VP.

In the election of 1800, that election went to the House and it took 36 rounds of voting before a deal was struck and Jefferson was elected. It was a mess.

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If the Electoral College is 269 each [View all] bbinacan Oct 2012 OP

My understanding is pintobean Oct 2012 #1

The House decides the President, the Senate the Vice President Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #3

It didn't know that it would be the new Congress bbinacan Oct 2012 #5

Yes, early January. Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #13

The 6th of January I think. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #21

Would likely be 1/8 ... zbdent Oct 2012 #46

Okay. Thanks. pintobean Oct 2012 #7

I would not want to be Romney demwing Oct 2012 #8

Technically they could vote in someone entirely different. Even more extreme. still_one Oct 2012 #37

The House votes by Congressional delegation meow2u3 Oct 2012 #32

the house would decide with 1 vote per state CreekDog Oct 2012 #54

It sure looks that way, Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #2

If a tie bbinacan Oct 2012 #12

Does anyone honestly think Democrats would have the balls to make Biden Romney's VP? Azathoth Oct 2012 #4

I hope they would. n/t bbinacan Oct 2012 #6

It's more likely there would be no result in the House RomneyLies Oct 2012 #14

Where does it say that split delegations cast no vote? Azathoth Oct 2012 #20

See post eleven RomneyLies Oct 2012 #31

That is political suicide. They would never win another election. Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #16

You really think guys like Nelson and Manchin wouldn't do it? Azathoth Oct 2012 #23

Yes, Republicans would approve of them but won't vote for them over an (R) Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #35

Wish I could be that confident Azathoth Oct 2012 #41

Republicans would do that in a minute. LisaL Oct 2012 #28

Here is a DU OP with details regarding the issue of a tie Tx4obama Oct 2012 #9

As stated. the House picks to President and the Senate the Vice President. Recovered Repug Oct 2012 #10

It would be entirely dependent upon the House races. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #11

Wow, what a crazy scenario Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #17

Yes, Biden would be able to pick his VP RomneyLies Oct 2012 #27

Bleh, that might put Boehner one heartbeat away. Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #33

Very scary, but still a very REAL possibility RomneyLies Oct 2012 #40

Oh wow, I never thought about the tied state delegations not voting before! reformist2 Oct 2012 #22

And per Wikipedia SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #55

Ugh. Fortunately a 269-269 tie is highly unlikely... reformist2 Oct 2012 #56

I'm expecting him to win SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #58

If it got to that point, my guess is that one or more states would try to recall their delegations Azathoth Oct 2012 #34

The rub here is that the Constitution doesn't say that tied states don't vote SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #43

Do the standard quorum rules also apply? Azathoth Oct 2012 #44

34 states have to be present SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #49

So in theory Boehner and a handful of carefully chosen Teabaggers could pick the next President Azathoth Oct 2012 #51

In theory, yes SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #53

That's why the Bush v. Gore decision was so accepted by the Congress in 2000. RomneyLies Oct 2012 #59

Yes, that precedent was set in 1825 RomneyLies Oct 2012 #47

I agree, I can't see any state being absent SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #50

Consitutionally, 34 members are all that is required RomneyLies Oct 2012 #48

Yes. The House picks the President and the Senate the Vice President... Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #15

I seriously doubt that. n/t bbinacan Oct 2012 #18

I don't... Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #29

Good luck with that. You think the (R)s would put President Obama back in office when Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #19

Yes. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #24

Really? Cause they have just such a great record of agreeing with each other? LisaL Oct 2012 #26

Yes. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #30

Oh good god. LisaL Oct 2012 #36

Whatever... Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #42

I don't see them going by national popular vote SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #57

hahaha, you used the phrase "both parties would come to an agreement" (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #45

Yes, it's possible. LisaL Oct 2012 #25

don't assume every democrat or republican would vote with their party on that vote. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #38

It's likely they would be under tremendous pressure to vote their state's popular vote davidn3600 Oct 2012 #52

Aaron Burr Almost Became President JPZenger Oct 2012 #61

first thing MFM008 Oct 2012 #39

The most realistic scenario for an electoral tie would be... davidn3600 Oct 2012 #60