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Demsrule86

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70. That is not true. It is a good bill and needs to be passed. There are always those who want what

Tue Sep 28, 2021, 10:27 AM

Sep 2021

they want and are willing to walk away with nothing. I heard 'we should not pass the imperfect ACA but wait for the public option or Medicare for all' Don't settle...that was the message from some. But the ACA has saved millions of lives and changed the way people think about healthcare-most view it is a 'right 'now. You get what is possible and come back for more. We need a bigger majority.

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Oh Fuck Joe Manchin and his socialistic bullshit [View all] berni_mccoy Sep 2021 OP

The Senator from big oil BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #1

And big pharma. soldierant Sep 2021 #45

Yup... BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #64

His daughter "works" in Big Pharma. soldierant Sep 2021 #75

"vs a reward based system." LakeArenal Sep 2021 #2

+1000 Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #6

This berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #63

+1 CentralMass Sep 2021 #3

This is the problem with misuse of words over time. Caliman73 Sep 2021 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Kablooie Sep 2021 #5

Careful, some people call it trashing Democrats. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #8

With "friends like Joe" Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #7

Count your blessings. Aren't you glad he caucuses with the Democrats? NurseJackie Sep 2021 #12

Where have I heard that line before? wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #17

Well Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #18

You're correct. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #20

No. He gave us the majority & none of the power RainCaster Sep 2021 #27

It's politically worse that Manchin is a Dem berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #40

We don't have a majority. The senate is split 50/50. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #42

Well, Chuck Schumer selects the committees chairs and that's pretty much it. Justice matters. Sep 2021 #49

Nobody said it was fair. But it is what it is and it's not going to change in our lifetimes... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #50

That is simply ridiculous on its face. MineralMan Sep 2021 #48

McConnell would be in charge if it wasn't for Manchin, The ACA would be gone if it wasn't for Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #68

McConnell IS in charge. berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #69

No. No, he is not. MineralMan Sep 2021 #71

Really? Because he sure seems to be getting his way on this berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #72

The Senate is equally divided between Democrats and Republicans MineralMan Sep 2021 #74

without limbaugh trumpism is done and so is the current GOP - manchin and the conservadems certainot Sep 2021 #47

That does it, now the Manchin police are going to 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #9

As Biden said, "let them come" berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #11

It's not always the ones on the outside 48656c6c6f20 Sep 2021 #15

I remember someone saying something about it's better to have them inside the tent pissing out... Lancero Sep 2021 #16

I'd be ok with that Mad_Machine76 Sep 2021 #19

Agree. He's smearing the Democratic Party's progressive liberalism. Hortensis Sep 2021 #10

We're WAY closer to a hierarchical authoritarian state Bettie Sep 2021 #22

Appallingly possible. But that still requires overthrowing our government, Hortensis Sep 2021 #35

That rewards based system, like his kid jacking up the price of epi-pens? Sympthsical Sep 2021 #13

Welfare queens in Cadillacs, Joe? moondust Sep 2021 #14

Wait... this is today? FBaggins Sep 2021 #21

I believe that Manchin is banking on Bettie Sep 2021 #23

the Progressive Caucus (96 members strong) are crazy if they pass that absolutely gutted bi-partisan Celerity Sep 2021 #60

That is not true. It is a good bill and needs to be passed. There are always those who want what Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #70

Disagree, both about giving up leverage, and the ACA analogy. Celerity Sep 2021 #73

He gets paid by the government. Maybe we should remove his pay ... aggiesal Sep 2021 #24

Maybe he's standing in for that "strong Republican party" leftstreet Sep 2021 #25

No! Work to change his mind. MineralMan Sep 2021 #26

Do you honestly believe that Joe Manchin will change his mind Bettie Sep 2021 #28

What I think is irrelevant. I do not bash Democrats. MineralMan Sep 2021 #30

Manchin breaks DU rules every day berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #32

He is not a member here. MineralMan Sep 2021 #34

Been here nearly 20 years berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #38

I don't care. I've been here since 2008, and I know them, too. MineralMan Sep 2021 #46

You do exactly the same shit to progressives and you know it berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #51

I have never said "Fuck you" to any progressive who votes with Democrats MineralMan Sep 2021 #53

If specific words are what has you hung up and not the sentiment berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #58

Not so. You are "saying the thing that is not" about me. MineralMan Sep 2021 #61

It's clear he is not working in good faith berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #31

Democrats are routinely bashed here. Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #59

Yeah, but apparently that is A-OK Bettie Sep 2021 #62

Will or can the DNC pull any money for his re-election campaign? Would they? Please? flying_wahini Sep 2021 #29

But he is "entitled" to it. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #44

Where's Michael Bloomberg when we need him? Justice matters. Sep 2021 #52

Still licking his wounds. flying_wahini Oct 2021 #76

the EPA should start imposing very strict restrictions on coal rdking647 Sep 2021 #33

"We'll let up as soon as you do, Senator Manchin. Deal?" calimary Sep 2021 #37

He's a millionaire by inheritance IbogaProject Sep 2021 #36

This economy produces enough to lift all to Federal poverty level bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #39

He's a millionaire by inheritance IbogaProject Sep 2021 #41

He must think that Social Security and Medicare being "entitled programs".... LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #43

K&Fuckin'R! nt Carlitos Brigante Sep 2021 #54

What an entitled asshole! nt Xipe Totec Sep 2021 #55

Enough of this asshole. What a corporate lackey. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #56

Why doesn't he agree with the republican voters in his constituency? Salviati Sep 2021 #57

Biden needed to carry his message directly to the people of W.VA. the Governor may have helped him. joetheman Sep 2021 #65

He didn't say that he would vote against it Polybius Sep 2021 #66

That's too much wishful thinking for this situation berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #67

Turns out you were right Polybius Dec 2021 #77