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moose65

(3,454 posts)
44. Hmmm
Wed Sep 29, 2021, 07:36 PM
Sep 2021

As far as I know, the filibuster can only be used in two ways - to prevent the Senate from beginning debate on a bill, and to prevent the Senate from ending debate on a bill. Right? Once the Senate invokes cloture on a bill, the actual vote on the bill itself only needs 51 votes to pass, right?

The motion to proceed (to begin debate) should not be subject to a filibuster. The party in power should get to set the agenda and decide which bills to debate. To prevent a cloture vote, the minority party should have to stay on the floor and keep debate open, by reading the phone book or whatever, until they pass out on the Senate floor. The purpose of the filibuster is to make sure the minority party is heard during debate. Today’s Republicans don’t want to debate - they just want to block everything.

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K&R bluewater Sep 2021 #1
If the plan of Manchin and Sinema was to drive this country right over a cliff... Girard442 Sep 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #6
THIS KPN Sep 2021 #9
Yep. nt Susan Calvin Sep 2021 #25
So true. Tommymac Sep 2021 #32
"over a cliff". So why doesn't a a tiny part of their pea brains ever consider that? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2021 #38
KnR Hekate Sep 2021 #3
Just the Anarchist Dogma at work here . . . Aussie105 Sep 2021 #4
A - Fucking - Men. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #5
" Republicans get to change...rules to get anything they want" Dave says Sep 2021 #10
Well the majority of Democrats have stated kelly1mm Sep 2021 #17
No Dave says Sep 2021 #20
They have in the past. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #21
K& f'ing R! KPN Sep 2021 #7
Republican agenda: disrupt, distort, distract, deceive, delay ... and then blame Democrats. Auggie Sep 2021 #8
Yup Dave says Sep 2021 #11
Yup, and voters fall for it again and again, thats why Dem plans always stall. Jon King Sep 2021 #13
Yeah, except looks like now elections will just be stolen. Auggie Sep 2021 #23
It works with their philosophy. Caliman73 Sep 2021 #16
K & R Celerity Sep 2021 #12
John Dingell's advice: Nasruddin Sep 2021 #14
Sorry but... There is sound reason for the filibuster zaj Sep 2021 #15
The same can be done... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #22
It was innovated by John Calhoun lonely bird Sep 2021 #26
The Senate already has that by Constitutional design. MoonlitKnight Sep 2021 #36
How does the Senate keep from passing-and-undoing laws? zaj Sep 2021 #45
Hmmm moose65 Sep 2021 #44
We get rid of the filibuster CanonRay Sep 2021 #18
The Senate is our House of Lords. hunter Sep 2021 #19
Ours is less hereditary IronLionZion Sep 2021 #30
Here's what I don't understand maxrandb Sep 2021 #24
Exactly!!! Lokee11 Sep 2021 #29
They are counting on their secure enclaves and private armies to protect them Tommymac Sep 2021 #34
But if there's Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #39
Fuck the filibuster Wild blueberry Sep 2021 #27
The senate was designed to represent the states, hence all the states have equal representation. LiberalArkie Sep 2021 #28
The states didn't have a formal landed gentry or peerage... hunter Sep 2021 #33
And we've even ceded THAT to them.... moose65 Sep 2021 #43
yep llashram Sep 2021 #31
"Give me the filabuster or Give me political death." Tommymac Sep 2021 #35
Are republicans The Wizard Sep 2021 #42
Hmmm... look at that photo up top. I wonder if Manchin has a sense of this... calimary Sep 2021 #37
Manchin is 1.91m tall (almost 6 feet 3 and half inches) so is taller than many pols Celerity Sep 2021 #40
This x 1000 Ferrets are Cool Sep 2021 #41
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