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58. They believe their wealth will protect them as society crumbles

Reply to ancianita (Reply #55)

Thu Sep 30, 2021, 01:24 PM

Sep 2021

Same deal with climate, they're basically in the "we're screwed, better steal everything not bolted down stage"

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Workers who keep global supply chains moving are warning of a 'system collapse.' [View all] ancianita Sep 2021 OP

Gee, maybe our workers shouldn't have been fired, our factories shut down, dismantled, shipped NBachers Sep 2021 #1

But but but, the "job creators" make more money that way. Canoe52 Sep 2021 #4

Land of the free - free to be dumb. calimary Sep 2021 #59

Yeah, but look at the upside. jaxexpat Sep 2021 #30

You said it. orangecrush Sep 2021 #34

True but even then we would be facing potential problems as cstanleytech Sep 2021 #57

I'm seeing it happen already and the slow drip will turn into a gush and will take everyone by yaesu Sep 2021 #2

How, tho? International industrial systems and everything they require Hortensis Sep 2021 #40

I try to buy only what I need Marthe48 Sep 2021 #3

Workers are in the cost column KT2000 Sep 2021 #5

I'd like to be as confident as you are canetoad Sep 2021 #26

Your last sentence ... Delphinus Sep 2021 #36

Agree. Some of us have, for sure. There's a little self correction Hortensis Sep 2021 #41

Unfortuntely OldBaldy1701E Sep 2021 #32

My brother ordered a bathtub from a factory In Wisconsin Eyeball_Kid Sep 2021 #6

Crate and Barrel always had a fall furniture sale. This is the spooky3 Sep 2021 #8

Socks made in Wisconsin are also backordered, or delayed indefinitely MyMission Sep 2021 #11

Delays, delivery slides, containers and leighbythesea2 Sep 2021 #7

I saw that article yesterday about dozens of cargo ships off Tadpole Raisin Sep 2021 #9

I've been keeping an eye out for signs of collapse. I'll look for the article you reference. ancianita Sep 2021 #12

The ports at Long Beach and Los Angeles madville Sep 2021 #17

Want to see that effect in reality? A HERETIC I AM Sep 2021 #27

Interesting. Delphinus Sep 2021 #38

Yes, the empty container shortage is huge problem. SunSeeker Sep 2021 #29

Yeah, just-in-time supply chains work great, until they suddenly don't . . . hatrack Sep 2021 #39

just-in-time indeed seems to be a big part of the problem LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #66

That and off-loading/off-shoring/whatever lots of our manufacturing people and skills . . . hatrack Sep 2021 #69

but but but Thomas Friedman said the world was flat! LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #70

From what I read, a good part of the port backup is from increased demand Hortensis Sep 2021 #42

One little pandemic and the supply chain almost collapsed Farmer-Rick Sep 2021 #10

Yes. Collapse doesn't have to happen all at once, but very slowly. We could be seeing that. ancianita Sep 2021 #13

Actually, to my view, millions of hits around the planet for two years Hortensis Sep 2021 #43

I get what you're saying Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #85

Yes, just looking at how the wealth we create should be distributed, Hortensis Oct 2021 #86

Good points. Farmer-Rick Oct 2021 #87

Customers complain and are perplexed at all the unavailable items... lame54 Sep 2021 #14

Point taken. ancianita Sep 2021 #15

A couple of relevant books on collapse, copyrighted this year, because timing is key: ancianita Sep 2021 #16

I've got to visit two supermarkets to get the groceries I need (okay, want). Grokenstein Sep 2021 #18

Don't think so. Karma13612 Sep 2021 #23

I think Lucky and Safeway are owned by the same parent company. chia Sep 2021 #33

Stocking decisions can be as much about management as supply chain, so there's no one sure sign. ancianita Sep 2021 #49

I left trucking and went back to school ripcord Sep 2021 #19

I agree with most of this paragraph. However, 3Hotdogs Sep 2021 #21

The weight of the truck is the responsibilty of the driver not the shipper ripcord Sep 2021 #22

I can see it in the car dealership lots near me. roamer65 Sep 2021 #20

It's a great time to sell Karma13612 Sep 2021 #24

Im just gonna drive the wheels off my car. roamer65 Sep 2021 #25

My car got killed after a run in with a deer... Lancero Sep 2021 #35

Yikes. roamer65 Sep 2021 #45

Well, the engine is low mileage for the age as well. Lancero Sep 2021 #48

👍 roamer65 Sep 2021 #83

Haha!!!! Karma13612 Sep 2021 #84

The supply chain for cars has already collapsed. Car dealerships are basically empty here in CA. SunSeeker Sep 2021 #28

It reminds me of what I read about 1942-1945. roamer65 Sep 2021 #46

That is totally what it's like. I guess we are in war, in a way. SunSeeker Oct 2021 #88

"Labour is the ghost in the machine" because the rich like it that way Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #31

Amen. And it's been past time for all who get a paycheck to see how they're all seen. ancianita Sep 2021 #50

workers of the world-- unite! LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #68

Yay Just-In-Time (JIT), the MBAs told us the system was efficient and foolproof bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #37

The race to the bottom means JIT... GopherGal Sep 2021 #52

And we see what happens with the chip shortages as soon as a critical choke point breaks bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #78

I'm Right Here ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #72

Well, Professor, I disagree bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #76

Was Taught Very Differently Where I Went ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #82

system collapse has destroyed entire civilizations DBoon Sep 2021 #44

In the first book I posted above, research is presented to show which kinds of civilizational models ancianita Sep 2021 #64

A host of things are at work lonely bird Sep 2021 #47

been buying music equipment for my son. mopinko Sep 2021 #51

You're safe with the Big Distributor and logistics monopoly in the West, one would think. ancianita Sep 2021 #53

One Major Supplier... ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #74

our hard find ws fii0 mopinko Sep 2021 #77

A somewhat surprising adjunct to this story that is also having an effect on commerice. BobTheSubgenius Sep 2021 #54

Wow, great point. I've counted MANY storage areas of shipping containers around Chicago + environs ancianita Sep 2021 #55

They believe their wealth will protect them as society crumbles Calculating Sep 2021 #58

Yes, they do, and there are a couple of other factors, as well. BobTheSubgenius Sep 2021 #61

The point you raise in your first para is a good one, one that has an answer in two parts. BobTheSubgenius Sep 2021 #60

Thanks very much. I intend to read up on what current macroeconomists are describing, ancianita Sep 2021 #63

I feel exactly the same. BobTheSubgenius Sep 2021 #71

I Don't Think So ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #75

Okay, thanx for the info. It's just that what I've seen doesn't dissipate, but what do I know ancianita Sep 2021 #79

There's SOOOO Much Movement ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #81

This is not good. Caliman73 Sep 2021 #56

No, it's not good. ancianita Sep 2021 #62

Labor shortages at home too... are they connected? FirstLight Sep 2021 #65

I think so. But not in the way we think. You're right, there probably needs to be a thread on this ancianita Sep 2021 #80

what's particularly frustrating/maddeing is hearing wingnuts blame this on Biden LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #67

We need to manufacture here....look at out autos brought to a standstill with a chip shortage... Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #73