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upi402

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31. That's why I actively fought Clinton/Gore NAFTA

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:17 AM

Oct 2012

And Obama is currently selling "free" trade deals as 'expanding markets'. Nobody evens questions it. The lie is now truth for both parties - without opposition.

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Free traders, and I mean all of them, worldwide, do you understand what's wrong here? [View all] Zalatix Oct 2012 OP

And by the way... dchill Oct 2012 #1

Get arrested for vagrancy undergroundpanther Oct 2012 #29

Best explanation of globalization ever !!! fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #2

Yes, please, steal it and use it as your own. Express permission. Zalatix Oct 2012 #3

Additional Sources mckara Oct 2012 #7

Impressive reading list. I must get those books. Zalatix Oct 2012 #16

I could see some people being all jazzed about it if we were exploiting low wages brewens Oct 2012 #4

This is why the GOP needs to be destroyed. Literally. BanTheGOP Oct 2012 #5

The GOP has learned from Germany's mistakes, and the mistakes of all before them. Zalatix Oct 2012 #12

Agreed undergroundpanther Oct 2012 #30

Fantastic post, saved for future viewing and reference Populist_Prole Oct 2012 #6

I argued these points w/ my soon-to-be ex (Stanford MBA) alittlelark Oct 2012 #8

Free trade is a bipartisan failure. hay rick Oct 2012 #9

My question to you is how do you convince the masses former-republican Oct 2012 #10

Oh JEEZ. That's the part they can LEAST understand. Zalatix Oct 2012 #14

lol former-republican Oct 2012 #15

Your Stuff Is Far From Way Out There. It Is Reality And A Fact. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2012 #22

By pointing out that "free trade" didn't lower prices, but just fattened corporate bottom lines Populist_Prole Oct 2012 #42

This is a thing of beauty and I'm not going to ruin it with my own commentary. pa28 Oct 2012 #11

Superb! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2012 #13

but, but, but....DLC Hillary says there are "advantages" to outsourcing antigop Oct 2012 #17

The war on America's working class is bipartisan. Zalatix Oct 2012 #19

only if we rid the party of the corporatists and I don't see that happening anytime soon n/t antigop Oct 2012 #20

Hillary needs to re-read the "Free trade is a win-win" memo. hay rick Oct 2012 #21

Are you kidding? Her husband invented the means to sell this Ponzi scheme to the sheeple. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #23

Ya gotta crawl before ya can walk. hay rick Oct 2012 #25

!!! marions ghost Oct 2012 #18

K&R One quibble; they're just robbing Peter, Paul is still fucked. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #24

See, that's the point, Peter and Paul have to find a way to work together. Zalatix Oct 2012 #35

If free trade ended, what would you say to the 10 million Americans in export-supported jobs, Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #26

Yawn. What do you say to the 20 million who lost their jobs to offshoring? Nothing? Okthxbye! Zalatix Oct 2012 #32

Got a link for 20 million jobs lost to outsourcing? Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #48

I'm with you here, Zalatix. But free trade globalists are blinded by greed ~ Zorra Oct 2012 #27

The free trade globalists are intentionally bleeding the working class. Zalatix Oct 2012 #33

You might appreciate some of this discussion. moondust Oct 2012 #28

That's why I actively fought Clinton/Gore NAFTA upi402 Oct 2012 #31

oh, you guys. The current capitalist paradigm is based on... aletier_v Oct 2012 #34

What about the people in the countries that we outsource to? ComplimentarySwine Oct 2012 #35

See? You don't get it. I just told you, and you flat out didn't get it. Zalatix Oct 2012 #37

The thing is... ComplimentarySwine Oct 2012 #38

Uh, no, they weren't, not like they are now. Not even close. Don't think you're fooling anyone. Zalatix Oct 2012 #39

Please forgive me for referencing Wikipedia, but... ComplimentarySwine Oct 2012 #40

Could it have had something to do with them importing Chinese labor to build railroads for a song? Zalatix Oct 2012 #41

It appears that you haven't thought this through... ComplimentarySwine Oct 2012 #43

"I'm also not for Americans having jobs just because they're Americans" nolabels Oct 2012 #44

The dead giveaway was him/her implying Americans are not competitive. Zalatix Oct 2012 #47

It would seem easy to debate any of his positions nolabels Oct 2012 #49

It more than appears that your argument is both callous and incoherent. Zalatix Oct 2012 #46

"The US is the third largest exporter in the world". Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #50

The US has the largest trade deficit in the world. So what if we're the 3rd largest exporter? Zalatix Oct 2012 #53

But the plutocrats DO have feelings for American workers IDemo Oct 2012 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 Oct 2012 #51

Well Done & DURec! bvar22 Oct 2012 #52

Of course they know. They don't care. They like those results. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #54