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Doremus

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136. Let them do what they have to do.

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 08:48 PM

Oct 2021

For the first time in many years they're proving they have balls.

Manchin said $1.5 and we won. Whatever number they land on from here it's a huge win in many more ways than one.

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This is insulting. [View all] sheshe2 Oct 2021 OP

She is doing her elected duty. JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 #1

It is a huge step in the right direction for all Americans and it will be far more than crumbs. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #3

I'm afraid to say it could be... JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 #6

Or our bridges fall, our roads melt in the heat. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #7

+1, some bridge repairs are better than no bridge repairs. Nixie Oct 2021 #15

Yes. Crumbs crumble. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #31

What makes anyone think that any bridge, no matter how tiny, can be held up by just crumbs? JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 #28

Yes... you're stretching the analogy to the point it becomes meaningless. LanternWaste Oct 2021 #100

It takes $164bn to fix bridges wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #87

That's exactly right. FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #12

Thank you! JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 #29

. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #58

Majorites. Democrats don't have supermajorities and a normal Republican Party like FDR had. betsuni Oct 2021 #65

Do you prefer the bill had not passed? iemanja Oct 2021 #22

Actually, I'm talking about not passing the bill repubs wanted before they decided they did not... JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 #30

What big tax breaks for big oil? betsuni Oct 2021 #39

crickets iemanja Oct 2021 #49

It's fantasy. betsuni Oct 2021 #61

Point to me the clause iemanja Oct 2021 #40

You have yet to point to a single provision in the bill iemanja Oct 2021 #120

Both bills will pass ... and BBB will be significantly KPN Oct 2021 #42

Excuse me iemanja Oct 2021 #47

That's a matter of perspective. KPN Oct 2021 #88

Bravo ChubbyStar Oct 2021 #103

I agree. The reality is the working and middle class have KPN Oct 2021 #37

Progressives voted for the bill iemanja Oct 2021 #41

We aren't entitled treestar Oct 2021 #97

She as yet does not get it. Of course we would like the whole thing! Getting absolutely nothing PortTack Oct 2021 #2

Thank you. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #5

And giving the billionaires & corporations what they want FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #16

Why not vote GOP then? iemanja Oct 2021 #23

Exactly! JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 #32

That was directed at the crowd insisting the bill was worse than nothing iemanja Oct 2021 #38

The public strongly supports the $3.5 T. That's not representative Democracy? KPN Oct 2021 #44

representative democracy is what legilsators iemanja Oct 2021 #48

Your mistake is thinking the public's support matters one whit to Manchin and Sinema. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #68

What do you mean? betsuni Oct 2021 #26

He means politicians should represent their voters. JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 #33

I asked what "giving billionaires & corporations what they want" means. betsuni Oct 2021 #51

Crickets again. Honest to God. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #106

Arm chair politics and trying to second guess our leaders is not helpful. PortTack Oct 2021 #55

+1 betsuni Oct 2021 #57

And getting nothing isn't going to happen. KPN Oct 2021 #43

She needs a whole pie Maru Kitteh Oct 2021 #4

I find myself agreeing with her this time stopdiggin Oct 2021 #8

Two trillion in profits sitting offshore would be nice to apply to the cause? czarjak Oct 2021 #9

Joe Biden has just advise coming down to 2T from 3.5T so... brush Oct 2021 #10

she's not my favorite but I don't think she is insulting that much nt msongs Oct 2021 #11

She's right, and it IS insulting FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #13

So your vote is all or nothing? sheshe2 Oct 2021 #18

Nothing is not "better", FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #19

What did I miss? sheshe2 Oct 2021 #21

I'm sorry that you missed FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja Oct 2021 #25

No it's not mcar Oct 2021 #82

AOC didn't say it either. Watch the video linked in the OP, it's nothing like the OP portrays it. Autumn Oct 2021 #127

That's an interesting sign behind the sophomore representative: "Invest in the planet, not war". lapucelle Oct 2021 #142

Yes, money out of politics! No beholden! betsuni Oct 2021 #144

Could someone explain what she means? I don't get it. betsuni Oct 2021 #14

+1, exactly. Now they are hyping a new buzzword: "crumbs" Nixie Oct 2021 #17

All of a sudden, a new script. "Nobody knows what's in the bills" and it only betsuni Oct 2021 #27

Apparently some people don't. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #20

"Guess they didn't have time to read the bill or understand what it is about." betsuni Oct 2021 #60

I'm amazed iemanja Oct 2021 #24

L... JoeOtterbein Oct 2021 #34

It's like their ignoring that much of this Joe Biden's work BradAllison Oct 2021 #35

Exactly. KPN Oct 2021 #45

Ouch..the truth hurts PortTack Oct 2021 #50

I'm afraid we are all arguing with one another for no reason. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #36

AOC rocks. Celerity Oct 2021 #46

I totally agree. She's got honesty and integrity... Violet_Crumble Oct 2021 #53

She also sends Republicans into spasms of hate a nitpickery! Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2021 #56

Some Dems too apparently ... KPN Oct 2021 #90

That was covered by the post I responded to... Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2021 #95

Lol ... what happens when you scroll through posts and interject KPN Oct 2021 #96

Actually, Republicans and RWers are always promoting her... Nixie Oct 2021 #115

Always? What alternate reality universe does that happen in? Violet_Crumble Oct 2021 #139

Oh please. They are always trying to make the socialist Nixie Oct 2021 #141

Republicans are trying to promote her by calling her a socialist? Violet_Crumble Oct 2021 #143

You don't need to worry about American elections, then, but Nixie Oct 2021 #145

+1 betsuni Oct 2021 #146

Yup ... and I find this OP insulting. KPN Oct 2021 #89

No, it's not. This, on the other hand, is totally insulting... Violet_Crumble Oct 2021 #52

Unfortunately the Hyde Amendment is already law iemanja Oct 2021 #54

I put this into the same column as the voters who say they didn't vote for Hillary because she Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #59

AOC is advocating for the bills that President Biden wants - that a majority of the country wants muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #62

I understand. But if we get the same things funded for 5 years instead of 10, Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #63

Thank you for your post. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #137

Hey, sheshe! And thank you for ALL of yours! Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #138

It all boggles my mind sometimes. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #140

AOC calls out those who don't negotiate in good faith, and some here find her insulting. Efilroft Sul Oct 2021 #64

But the fact is that they are not negotiating in good faith, and they will not. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #66

Totally get your point. But to see people here attack AOC and not the bad-faith negotiators... Efilroft Sul Oct 2021 #67

But I have to say that this is a hard sell by Joe and the people who want to pass the bill. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #69

Nice response. Truly. Efilroft Sul Oct 2021 #79

Yes. The election protection is the most important thing, and I will be very nervous till we get it Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #80

+1000! mcar Oct 2021 #86

Some here find any views left of center insulting. nt Hotler Oct 2021 #92

What is insulting is what they have given to the wealthy, corporations, the military budget Autumn Oct 2021 #70

Who is "they"? betsuni Oct 2021 #71

Think about it for a minute betsuni. It will come to you. Maybe. Autumn Oct 2021 #72

What, Autumn? Republicans? betsuni Oct 2021 #73

Who betsuni. Not what. Autumn Oct 2021 #74

You said "think about it for a minute" and I said "What?" betsuni Oct 2021 #75

Think about your question for a minute betsuni. You can figure it out. Autumn Oct 2021 #76

Here we go. betsuni Oct 2021 #77

Yeah here we go. If you slept through the last 8 years that you have to ask who it's not my place Autumn Oct 2021 #78

"It will come to you" and I've "slept though the last 8 years." betsuni Oct 2021 #81

Sometimes when you ask a question the answer might just make you mad. Oh well. Autumn Oct 2021 #84

I'm supposed to get mad? At what? betsuni Oct 2021 #85

Hello Autumn ChubbyStar Oct 2021 #104

I'm so happy seeing you! I've missed you. Autumn Oct 2021 #105

What in this bill is given to the wealthy? iemanja Oct 2021 #98

Massive fail there. What they have spent on their endless wars and the military budget is a Autumn Oct 2021 #99

So you are just ranting about republiQans in general and not talking about this Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #107

No I'm not talking about the bill. Neither is the OP so my post is right on fucking target. If your Autumn Oct 2021 #109

You seem upset. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #110

You seems bothered that I'm ranting about republicans instead of ranting about a Progressive. Autumn Oct 2021 #111

You have a nice night, now. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #112

But the questions were about this bill. Nixie Oct 2021 #114

My original post was a response to the OP. There is not one question in the OP. The OP was not about Autumn Oct 2021 #118

In the video linked in the OP, AOC says the 1T bill is worse than passing nothing iemanja Oct 2021 #119

Might want to watch that video again. Because she did not say the bill is worse than passing nothing Autumn Oct 2021 #125

The quote contradicts your claim iemanja Oct 2021 #128

No it does not. She did not say that the bill is worse than passing nothing. Autumn Oct 2021 #129

She asked the question multiple times iemanja Oct 2021 #130

It is insulting, she mcar Oct 2021 #83

We should not be playing the blame game among Dems for any reason ever. gulliver Oct 2021 #91

compromise iemanja Oct 2021 #121

What is insulting is Manchin and Sinema attempting to kill Biden's agenda and people giving them Autumn Oct 2021 #93

Biden endorsed this bill. Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #94

Because this site is full of Manchin and Sinema supporters iemanja Oct 2021 #122

I feel like I fell down a rabbit hole questionseverything Oct 2021 #101

It's the weekend Sympthsical Oct 2021 #108

That's why you should read for content instead of your Nixie Oct 2021 #113

Nah, I'm good Sympthsical Oct 2021 #116

Well, at least you admit that you didn't read this Nixie Oct 2021 #117

It wasn't an admission Sympthsical Oct 2021 #123

Cool. I impress myself all the time, too. Nixie Oct 2021 #132

... sheshe2 Oct 2021 #124

.... Nixie Oct 2021 #133

Hey Nixie. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #134

Always good to see you, too, she. Nixie Oct 2021 #135

I'm so sick of her nini Oct 2021 #126

Incremental steps. sheshe2 Oct 2021 #131

Let them do what they have to do. Doremus Oct 2021 #136