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Klaralven

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8. The fall began in the '70s with the oil shocks and energy crises

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Mon Oct 4, 2021, 11:40 AM

Oct 2021

Relative to the rest of the world, we've been declining ever since.

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Do you fear the U.S. will fall within the next decade [View all] USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2021 OP

It won't fall from a military power standpoint... SKKY Oct 2021 #1

And military powers can only last for so long USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2021 #4

Yes, and totally from within. An implosion, not an explosion...a collapse, not a demolition... ret5hd Oct 2021 #2

A murder-suicide. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #11

I completely agree with you. Percy Oct 2021 #43

Yes, SharonAnn Oct 2021 #56

What do you mean, fall? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2021 #3

I think it will take longer than a decade to complete but the fall has began. Runningdawg Oct 2021 #5

It all depends on what happens in the '22 mid-terms and the '24 presidential race. brush Oct 2021 #6

No. That's what MAGATs want us to think. Kingofalldems Oct 2021 #7

The fall began in the '70s with the oil shocks and energy crises Klaralven Oct 2021 #8

If the Rethugz somehow return to power, abso-fuckin-lutely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2021 #9

No. Not really. It's just hyperbole imo fescuerescue Oct 2021 #10

Agree! We lived thru the civil war and other very difficult times PortTack Oct 2021 #17

Never have some many internal Miguelito Loveless Oct 2021 #23

Yes. I see the writing on the wall. dhol82 Oct 2021 #12

Yes. Xoan Oct 2021 #13

Not at all! Be realistic! Nt USALiberal Oct 2021 #14

Given how close we came to a coup Miguelito Loveless Oct 2021 #19

Close? One building! Nt USALiberal Oct 2021 #21

The one building being Miguelito Loveless Oct 2021 #24

So dramatic. So that one day could overthrow the whole government?? USALiberal Oct 2021 #30

Yes. They almost stopped the certification of the vote Miguelito Loveless Oct 2021 #38

You seem upset by all this. LanternWaste Oct 2021 #52

I think you need to define "fall" (n/t) Patton French Oct 2021 #15

Good point USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2021 #26

Yes. I think the US will likely be Autocratic within the next few years. Marius25 Oct 2021 #16

If we fail to protect voting Miguelito Loveless Oct 2021 #18

No. sarisataka Oct 2021 #20

No, not by a long shot. Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #22

I think our Democracy will fall Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #25

Yep USAFRetired_Liberal Oct 2021 #27

I fear that it could. The United States are definitely not united. Jim__ Oct 2021 #28

No... Ohio Joe Oct 2021 #29

We've been hearing this since the '80s. Boy who cried wolfism Bucky Oct 2021 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Bucky Oct 2021 #32

No, but ask me after the Virginia 2021 Election. n/t FSogol Oct 2021 #33

I don't think it will fall in the sense of an overt overthrow of the government. The outward jalan48 Oct 2021 #34

I think we WILL break up and take down the dollar with it within 10 years. roamer65 Oct 2021 #35

We stay together because too many powerful people have too many dollars DFW Oct 2021 #60

Not if we all get out and vote like our lives depend on it Bettie Oct 2021 #36

We can't out organize republican access denial and nullification laws. There's no brute forcing or.. uponit7771 Oct 2021 #48

I am hopeful that if they enrage women and Bettie Oct 2021 #53

Vote access denial and nullification can't be overcome by turnout. That's not how laws work ... uponit7771 Oct 2021 #54

I know, I do Bettie Oct 2021 #57

Sooo true 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 uponit7771 Oct 2021 #59

The utter collapse VGNonly Oct 2021 #37

Functionally don't have a democracy without voter rights, so in the next 2 years we'll see voter ... uponit7771 Oct 2021 #47

I believe you are correct. marie999 Oct 2021 #62

I believe we're going to become a failed state. I'd like to see some part of the country salvaged Crunchy Frog Oct 2021 #39

Yes it is possible that we could fall. slater71 Oct 2021 #40

You mean break up? That's more of a possibility RFCalifornia Oct 2021 #41

Wont break up, not like Russia were people given the choice chose the west or not to be with USSR uponit7771 Oct 2021 #46

I think it's in a death spiral. I hope not to be here when it really collapses. sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #42

I think it's a very real possibility. Unless voting rights are protected, chances are the GQP will Vinca Oct 2021 #44

***YES!!!*** We'll no longer have a functional democracy if voter rights aren't passed uponit7771 Oct 2021 #45

Yes. The Bad Guys are winning. (nt) Paladin Oct 2021 #49

Decay, not fall. haele Oct 2021 #50

Falter but not fall. nt Raine Oct 2021 #51

Not no, but fuck no. denbot Oct 2021 #55

It's not looking too good if the people keep electing Trumps, Abbots, Desantis, Cruzs and Hawleys SunImp Oct 2021 #58

A one party authoritarian system is entirely possible, in fact it is quite likely. Voltaire2 Oct 2021 #61