Free traders, and I mean all of them, worldwide, do you understand what's wrong here?

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46. It more than appears that your argument is both callous and incoherent.

First, you say that some of the richest people in the nation's history got so incredibly rich because of globalization in the early 1900s, then you turn around and argue that increases in CEO pay in the last 30 years are because of modern globalism. I don't see how you can have it both ways.

Yes I can. Because each time globalism CEO pay skyrocketed, it accompanied a rise in globalism. When globalism waned, CEO wages came back down to parity with workers' wages.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/ceo-pay-worker-pay_n_1471685.html

CEO Pay Grew 127 Times Faster Than Worker Pay Over Last 30 Years: Study

Yup, right after Reagan gutted us with globalism.

I've already pointed out that the US is listed as the 3rd largest exporter in the world.

You're being silly when you say this. Because you intentionally try to avoid the fact that our exports are dwarfed by our imports.

I didn't address your World Bank quote because it seemed irrelevant.[/quote]
Again, silly hour. It is at the very heart of the matter.

[quote] Since you insist, I sugest that you go back and read the quote over again. They recommended against other countries relying on exports because of a slowdown of richer nations decreasing their imports. In other words, they recommend that developing countries don't export goods to us because of the very policies that you're espousing.

No, they did not recommend that developing countries not export goods to us because of the very policies that I'm espousing. This is a lie. They recommended against other countries relying on exports because richer nations cannot afford to keep bleeding jobs to them.

You are attributing to policy what is an act of nature.

I'm not against American workers having jobs, but I'm also not for Americans having jobs just because they're Americans.

Well, I am for Americans having jobs because they're Americans. Savvy?

You need to get that straight. You and I will be forever at odds for that. This is called a Stand Your Ground moment, without the firearm. The line is being drawn by America's working class - today it is "This far and no further". Tomorrow it's "globalists, you will retreat".

You do not understand. America's working class will use political force to get their jobs back. They will take their jobs back. And when it starts, there will be nothing you can do to stop it.

Savvy?

The door has been slammed shut on American workers. The door slams both ways.