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Ms. Toad

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81. My point precisely.

Wed Oct 6, 2021, 04:50 PM

Oct 2021

I'm a cis male with a very recognizably male name. So, I don't feel the need.

No one is demanding you change how you present yourself. Your identiy is male, you use male pronouns.

The suggestion is that you spend some of your privilege by making it easier for people who are less privileged in this aspect of their lives by challenging the assumptions that name or presentation = gender.

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Pronouns: he, him, his or she, her, hers [View all] grumpyduck Oct 2021 OP

I've always gotten them mixed up anyway in conversation. Some kind of dyslexia Walleye Oct 2021 #1

I don't think I understand the question.... Ohio Joe Oct 2021 #2

Thanks. I revised the question. grumpyduck Oct 2021 #3

ahh, ok I see now... Ohio Joe Oct 2021 #10

I don't do it on my e-mail sigs AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #18

It's not that it bothers me, grumpyduck Oct 2021 #20

Sometimes "being politically correct" is just being polite and correct. meadowlander Oct 2021 #61

I've seen it a few times in emails. MLAA Oct 2021 #4

It's optional at both work and school Sympthsical Oct 2021 #5

Same TheProle Oct 2021 #8

You apparently don't need to identify your pronouns because your name/presentation match Ms. Toad Oct 2021 #65

Nowhere did I state that I didn't understand that Sympthsical Oct 2021 #68

My point precisely. Ms. Toad Oct 2021 #81

Hmmm...I'd be forced to use: ret5hd Oct 2021 #6

They/them can be chose by those who identify non-binary. we can do it Oct 2021 #7

Coming Attraction: Smee Champp Oct 2021 #9

Just use neuter plural pronouns - they, their, them or you, your Klaralven Oct 2021 #15

I'm starting to see this a lot lately, unblock Oct 2021 #11

Okay, please help me here PatSeg Oct 2021 #25

That is sort of like.... CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #28

When it comes to the content of a business email PatSeg Oct 2021 #38

agreed, and online communication is an interesting venue in that color and gender actually can be unblock Oct 2021 #43

Yes it would PatSeg Oct 2021 #54

I don't understand - "you" and "your" are also gender-neutral muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #75

When you take the people out of business CrackityJones75 Oct 2021 #63

Some places allow for it Sympthsical Oct 2021 #39

Thank you PatSeg Oct 2021 #51

so, let's say your name is pat and you want people to know you identify as male unblock Oct 2021 #40

Thanks, I just couldn't picture PatSeg Oct 2021 #53

John Smith, him LeftInTX Oct 2021 #70

Thanks, it just feels rather odd to me, PatSeg Oct 2021 #73

I think the point is to make it comfortable and normal for people to specify what pronouns they want meadowlander Oct 2021 #59

+1 leftstreet Oct 2021 #72

There's a line for it in LinkedIn on your profile SCantiGOP Oct 2021 #12

I'm not adding them jimfields33 Oct 2021 #13

I have no problem respecting someone's personal wishes, but if they have a preference... hlthe2b Oct 2021 #14

By this you mean you don't feel a need to do this yourself? vanlassie Oct 2021 #26

Yes. That is what I said. hlthe2b Oct 2021 #27

👍👍 vanlassie Oct 2021 #31

Putting the onus on everyone is the main reason for doing it. Ms. Toad Oct 2021 #67

No, the onus is on EVERYONE to RESPECT a chosen pronoun when identified. hlthe2b Oct 2021 #69

That's a start. Ms. Toad Oct 2021 #80

It was unusual to see just a few years ago MissB Oct 2021 #16

Happy Birthday Pat. multigraincracker Oct 2021 #17

There really SHOULD be a set of non-gender pronouns for use when a gender is unkown. 70sEraVet Oct 2021 #19

I always found it rather odd PatSeg Oct 2021 #23

The plural forms are acceptable now when referring to a singular nuxvomica Oct 2021 #36

Oh yes, it did precede the use of plural forms PatSeg Oct 2021 #44

I've gotten used to "they/them/their" for singular nuxvomica Oct 2021 #66

I think we all have some of those PatSeg Oct 2021 #71

I Can't Get RobinA Oct 2021 #78

Unfortunately, the alternative would be to use the masculine nuxvomica Oct 2021 #84

We have one. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2021 #35

As a gay man who played the pronoun game often and with great relish Sympthsical Oct 2021 #42

Why are you confused by 'they' (both singular and plural), but not 'you' (both singular and plural)? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #77

Here's a bbc article. hunter Oct 2021 #21

I really hate the they/their singular use. honest.abe Oct 2021 #33

Same. I'd be delighted if singular forms were to develop. Hortensis Oct 2021 #45

Yes, "they" have the right to do so. honest.abe Oct 2021 #74

I've seen xe/xir used as well AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #87

I have a first name that a lot of people mistake for female, even though I'm male Silent3 Oct 2021 #22

Yes, very awkward and uncomfortable for me as well PatSeg Oct 2021 #24

I was always at war with my English teachers from grade school thru college. hunter Oct 2021 #37

My first rule is PatSeg Oct 2021 #50

If I start obsessing about the rules I freeze up and don't write anything at all. hunter Oct 2021 #56

Oh yes, that can be very inhibiting PatSeg Oct 2021 #60

Me too, but, I love how a non-binary person I follow vanlassie Oct 2021 #30

That's why I said *known* singular person Silent3 Oct 2021 #47

My mom was an English major. Tell me about it!😜 vanlassie Oct 2021 #55

I have the same in reverse and also work as a professional in field that has long been assumed male. hlthe2b Oct 2021 #62

I do not romana Oct 2021 #29

it's not required in my work, but it's becoming pretty standard voluntarily fishwax Oct 2021 #32

Just a thought Mossfern Oct 2021 #34

I like it. ananda Oct 2021 #41

My hospital asks patients their preferred pronouns, always. ismnotwasm Oct 2021 #46

I'm a HS teacher. I do it in my signature. It helps normalize the use. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2021 #48

I don't and won't, would be unusual and attract unwanted attention Amishman Oct 2021 #49

Precisely the point - Ms. Toad Oct 2021 #79

At my company, the only people who do that are the HR Directors. beaglelover Oct 2021 #52

At 69 years old, I have come to greatly respect Jeffery Marsh. vanlassie Oct 2021 #57

Not required Mad_Machine76 Oct 2021 #58

Please do - it is a way of not "othering" trans, non-binary, genderqueer individuals. Ms. Toad Oct 2021 #64

I Am Not RobinA Oct 2021 #76

It's an LGBT inclusive thing...I'm not LGBT, so it's more out of respect for the LBGT community. LeftInTX Oct 2021 #83

Not required to, but I choose to Withywindle Oct 2021 #82

Never even heard of that. n/t DFW Oct 2021 #85

Slight diversion: why 3 pronouns in the example you give, or 2 for most I've seen? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #86