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George II

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12. Two points:

Fri Oct 8, 2021, 08:34 PM

Oct 2021

1. Again, neither Manchin nor Sinema have voted against ANYTHING Biden has put forward for his agenda
2. Manchin and Sinema, despite how people feel about them for whatever reasons, are still DEMOCRATS!

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Bernie Sanders isn't holding back anymore, accusing Sinema and Manchin of selling out Biden's agenda [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP

Bernie is right. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #1

Yep. He's just plain right. Mister Ed Oct 2021 #6

I've never been a Sanders supporter BlueLucy Oct 2021 #7

As far as voting with Biden's agenda since he's been President, both Manchin and Sinema have voted.. George II Oct 2021 #8

There are some big things we could be getting done but won't BlueLucy Oct 2021 #9

Two points: George II Oct 2021 #12

Thats deliberately disingenuous jcgoldie Oct 2021 #16

Deliberately disingenuous is an understatement. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2021 #17

+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #58

+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #57

Yes they're democrats but they are still holding us back on some pretty big issues. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #22

Defending Manchin and Sinema? Really? KPN Oct 2021 #10

Yes really. I support ALL Democrats. Is there something wrong with that? George II Oct 2021 #13

Support all Democrats who are more conservative than goops wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #20

So you're advocating for supporting republican Senators ("goops") over Democratic Senators? George II Oct 2021 #21

I support *Democratic* Democratic senators wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #23

ANNUALLY, meaning there hasn't been a scorecard in months. There's also this (with link!)..... George II Oct 2021 #28

You're saying Elizabeth Warren is more conservative than Manchin? wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #29

I'm not saying anything. These are ratings compiled by the respected projects.fivethirtyeight.... George II Oct 2021 #31

The former Senator from Arizona...voted with the GOP all of the time. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #61

As I understand the DU terms of service, we are all supposed to support Democrats, TomSlick Oct 2021 #19

Yes indeed, thank you. You know, with all the bashing of those two DEMOCRATIC Senators.... George II Oct 2021 #24

Damned good point. TomSlick Oct 2021 #26

therein lies the rub LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #50

So the two bills passed last month? wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #18

Did Manchin or Sinema vote against either bill? George II Oct 2021 #25

Did they voice support of both of them? wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #27

They didn't vote against them. I'll reserve criticism until either, or anyone.... George II Oct 2021 #30

Of course you're not wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #32

Yes, that was an ACTUAL vote. Like I said, I'll reserve criticism of any DEMOCRAT until.... George II Oct 2021 #33

Even those who *didn't* vote for something for or against? wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #37

Once again, the example you've given was about a vote that actually HAPPENED, not one.... George II Oct 2021 #43

Because she didn't vote "no" wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #46

Nope. Unlike the bills that Manchin and Sinema are being criticized for, your example is of.... George II Oct 2021 #47

A vote that's neither in favor nor against is not actually a vote wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #48

That's not the way most people look at it, and at least there was a floor vote on the bill, unlike.. George II Oct 2021 #52

They're criticized for holding up the vote wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #54

If Schumer and Pelosi didn't have to worry about the two stooges voting against either one of them dflprincess Oct 2021 #35

I don't think either ever had any intention of supporting any bill. BlueNProud Oct 2021 #2

We won't know that until either actually votes against one of the bills, and neither has yet. George II Oct 2021 #34

+1... myohmy2 Oct 2021 #45

I'm glad somebody is being vocal about it. n/t NH Ethylene Oct 2021 #3

Yes, and is anyone really surprised? Unfortunately we need both Sinema and Manchin to maintain JohnSJ Oct 2021 #4

It's not just the Democrats being held hostage. ShazzieB Oct 2021 #11

By Corporate Influence DanieRains Oct 2021 #15

Love Bernie! Lunabell Oct 2021 #5

Bernie nails it budkin Oct 2021 #14

Bernie is right but will it help or hurt? LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #36

Bernie is an independent, so he is the designated official basher of wayward Dems. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #38

Yes-- but still, will his bashing hurt or help? LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #39

+1, bingo Nixie Oct 2021 #40

I guess they figure it is a degree of separation from the Dem party, so maybe it is safe. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #42

Yes, I feel like it could go either way LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #49

I guess the hope is that Bernie could shame the two senators into doing the right thing. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #55

Right, but I feel like we're past that point now... LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #59

Yep. Frustrating and tragic. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #62

What's the proof that campaign financing has "a direct correlation" to policy positions? betsuni Oct 2021 #41

Better yet, what's the proof that any of these so-called contributions even occurred? George II Oct 2021 #44

I think it's pretty well established that Manchin and Sinema court corporate donations LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #51

Corporate donations are illegal. They'd both be expelled, and they should be, if they accepted any. George II Oct 2021 #53

"corporations are people too, my friend" LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #60

Bernie has been fantastic since Biden won the nomination Polybius Oct 2021 #56