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wellst0nev0ter

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46. Because she didn't vote "no"

Reply to George II (Reply #43)

Sat Oct 9, 2021, 10:29 AM

Oct 2021

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Bernie Sanders isn't holding back anymore, accusing Sinema and Manchin of selling out Biden's agenda [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 OP

Bernie is right. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #1

Yep. He's just plain right. Mister Ed Oct 2021 #6

I've never been a Sanders supporter BlueLucy Oct 2021 #7

As far as voting with Biden's agenda since he's been President, both Manchin and Sinema have voted.. George II Oct 2021 #8

There are some big things we could be getting done but won't BlueLucy Oct 2021 #9

Two points: George II Oct 2021 #12

Thats deliberately disingenuous jcgoldie Oct 2021 #16

Deliberately disingenuous is an understatement. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2021 #17

+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #58

+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #57

Yes they're democrats but they are still holding us back on some pretty big issues. BlueLucy Oct 2021 #22

Defending Manchin and Sinema? Really? KPN Oct 2021 #10

Yes really. I support ALL Democrats. Is there something wrong with that? George II Oct 2021 #13

Support all Democrats who are more conservative than goops wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #20

So you're advocating for supporting republican Senators ("goops") over Democratic Senators? George II Oct 2021 #21

I support *Democratic* Democratic senators wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #23

ANNUALLY, meaning there hasn't been a scorecard in months. There's also this (with link!)..... George II Oct 2021 #28

You're saying Elizabeth Warren is more conservative than Manchin? wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #29

I'm not saying anything. These are ratings compiled by the respected projects.fivethirtyeight.... George II Oct 2021 #31

The former Senator from Arizona...voted with the GOP all of the time. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #61

As I understand the DU terms of service, we are all supposed to support Democrats, TomSlick Oct 2021 #19

Yes indeed, thank you. You know, with all the bashing of those two DEMOCRATIC Senators.... George II Oct 2021 #24

Damned good point. TomSlick Oct 2021 #26

therein lies the rub LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #50

So the two bills passed last month? wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #18

Did Manchin or Sinema vote against either bill? George II Oct 2021 #25

Did they voice support of both of them? wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #27

They didn't vote against them. I'll reserve criticism until either, or anyone.... George II Oct 2021 #30

Of course you're not wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #32

Yes, that was an ACTUAL vote. Like I said, I'll reserve criticism of any DEMOCRAT until.... George II Oct 2021 #33

Even those who *didn't* vote for something for or against? wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #37

Once again, the example you've given was about a vote that actually HAPPENED, not one.... George II Oct 2021 #43

Because she didn't vote "no" wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #46

Nope. Unlike the bills that Manchin and Sinema are being criticized for, your example is of.... George II Oct 2021 #47

A vote that's neither in favor nor against is not actually a vote wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #48

That's not the way most people look at it, and at least there was a floor vote on the bill, unlike.. George II Oct 2021 #52

They're criticized for holding up the vote wellst0nev0ter Oct 2021 #54

If Schumer and Pelosi didn't have to worry about the two stooges voting against either one of them dflprincess Oct 2021 #35

I don't think either ever had any intention of supporting any bill. BlueNProud Oct 2021 #2

We won't know that until either actually votes against one of the bills, and neither has yet. George II Oct 2021 #34

+1... myohmy2 Oct 2021 #45

I'm glad somebody is being vocal about it. n/t NH Ethylene Oct 2021 #3

Yes, and is anyone really surprised? Unfortunately we need both Sinema and Manchin to maintain JohnSJ Oct 2021 #4

It's not just the Democrats being held hostage. ShazzieB Oct 2021 #11

By Corporate Influence DanieRains Oct 2021 #15

Love Bernie! Lunabell Oct 2021 #5

Bernie nails it budkin Oct 2021 #14

Bernie is right but will it help or hurt? LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #36

Bernie is an independent, so he is the designated official basher of wayward Dems. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #38

Yes-- but still, will his bashing hurt or help? LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #39

+1, bingo Nixie Oct 2021 #40

I guess they figure it is a degree of separation from the Dem party, so maybe it is safe. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #42

Yes, I feel like it could go either way LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #49

I guess the hope is that Bernie could shame the two senators into doing the right thing. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #55

Right, but I feel like we're past that point now... LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #59

Yep. Frustrating and tragic. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #62

What's the proof that campaign financing has "a direct correlation" to policy positions? betsuni Oct 2021 #41

Better yet, what's the proof that any of these so-called contributions even occurred? George II Oct 2021 #44

I think it's pretty well established that Manchin and Sinema court corporate donations LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #51

Corporate donations are illegal. They'd both be expelled, and they should be, if they accepted any. George II Oct 2021 #53

"corporations are people too, my friend" LymphocyteLover Oct 2021 #60

Bernie has been fantastic since Biden won the nomination Polybius Oct 2021 #56