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Celerity

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19. renewables simply do not have enough ERoEI, nuclear does, and the latest gen reactors are far safer
Thu Oct 14, 2021, 02:30 AM
Oct 2021

hopefully fusion power is soon a reality



Nations Go Nuclear As Prices Spike And Renewables Fail

https://www.eurasiareview.com/12102021-nations-go-nuclear-as-prices-spike-and-renewables-fail-oped/

National leaders around the world are announcing big plans to return to nuclear energy now that the cost of natural gas, coal, and petroleum are spiking, and weather-dependent renewables are failing to deliver. “The number one objective is to have innovative small-scale nuclear reactors in France by 2030 along with better waste management,” said French President Emmanuel Macron. Macron had previously promised to reduce nuclear from 75 to 50 percent of its power, noted Financial Times. “But the mood has now changed,” the paper writes today. “Macron said on Tuesday he would begin investing in new nuclear projects ‘very quickly.’” “Nuclear is coming [back] to the fulcrum of the energy debate in France and much faster than I ever thought it would,” said a partner at Lavoisier Conseil, an energy-focused management consultancy.

Meanwhile, the British government is in talks with Westinghouse over whether to build a new nuclear plant in Wales, one which could provide power for over six million homes, and has pushed China out of having a stake in a different nuclear plant, Sizewell. Last year, former Extinction Rebellion spokesperson Zion Lights, led a successful push to build Sizewell. What explains the change? Rising energy prices and growing popular and political support for nuclear. Public support for nuclear energy rose 17 percentage points in France. “I do not want our country to lose its energy sovereignty under the pretext of an absurd energy transition copied from Germany,” said a conservative French presidential candidate seeking to defeat Macron.

Finland has joined France, Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic in lobbying the European Union to categorize nuclear power as sustainable. According to the Finnish Broadcasting Company, Finland’s pro-nuclear lobbying marks a U-turn within the Green Party, which is part of the current government. “Traditionally the party has been fiercely anti-nuclear,” notes Pekka Vänttinen of Euractiv, “and has resigned from previous governments over the issue. Its views have become more pragmatic, and the Greens now claim to have a technology-neutral attitude when it comes to fighting climate change.”

The heavy reliance on weather-dependent renewables in the US and Europe made electricity supplies more vulnerable to natural gas shortages. Growing dependence on renewables have meant dependence on natural gas and its inevitable price spikes. Many nations are now returning to the dirtiest forms of electricity production, diesel and coal. The shift to nuclear is worldwide. Yesterday, Japan’s new prime minister, Fumio Kishida, defended his pro-nuclear policies in Parliament. Kishida came to power on a pro-nuclear platform. He defeated a former vaccine minister who had criticized nuclear energy. “It’s crucial that we re-start nuclear power plants,” Kishida said.

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Ooh, completely surround Mar-a-Lago! tanyev Oct 2021 #1
Good! Windfarms don't spill toxic sludge on our beaches! SunSeeker Oct 2021 #2
Build the wall, of wind turbines! Bluethroughu Oct 2021 #3
That's a terrible idea hunter Oct 2021 #4
So we should abandon renewable energy all together? Vdizzle Oct 2021 #5
Hunter wants to make things better, as do I. StevieM Oct 2021 #18
So you think nuclear power is the answer womanofthehills Oct 2021 #7
That doesn't really align with reality. ForgedCrank Oct 2021 #9
Agreed, without huge advances in energy storage; wind and solar can only be a small source Amishman Oct 2021 #20
This is all a matter of managing our expectations. ForgedCrank Oct 2021 #8
Population OrangeJoe Oct 2021 #11
Energy can be stored quakerboy Oct 2021 #14
California moves huge amounts of water around... hunter Oct 2021 #21
There is a number of clean energy sources now and I doubt that the intention is to count on just one Bev54 Oct 2021 #17
Right. And nuclear. To keep everyone alive and the nation running Hortensis Oct 2021 #34
So we should develop nukes instead of storage technologies? lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #22
What storage technology do you propose? hunter Oct 2021 #26
Obviously, a complementary range of storage technologies. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #27
I've been watching technological developments in renewable energy... hunter Oct 2021 #29
I might consider thorium, because it burns the filthy waste of uranium nukes. lagomorph777 Oct 2021 #30
He's going to cause CANCER!! live love laugh Oct 2021 #6
and kill all the birds the republicans don't shoot or poison certainot Oct 2021 #10
Bravo! Fuck nuclear power plants! C Moon Oct 2021 #12
Nuclear power won't destroy our civilization. hunter Oct 2021 #13
Thats why everyone is rushing to invest in quakerboy Oct 2021 #16
The most horrible thing we learned from Chernobyl and Fukushima... hunter Oct 2021 #24
renewables simply do not have enough ERoEI, nuclear does, and the latest gen reactors are far safer Celerity Oct 2021 #19
Bill Gates has it figured out WarGamer Oct 2021 #33
K & R Duppers Oct 2021 #15
Like anything else, technology for renewables will advance as we develop it. Midnight Writer Oct 2021 #23
That is great Bettie Oct 2021 #25
I wish they would pursue wave-action power too RussBLib Oct 2021 #28
It's windy there already. Why are they putting fans in? TrogL Oct 2021 #31
Good, don't forget the nukes WarGamer Oct 2021 #32
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