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ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
8. Mitt Romney is a manipulative bastard...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 05:17 PM
Oct 2012

...who will say anything, anytime in order to get elected.

He really believes that most other people are beneath him, if not beneath contempt.

I agree he should not be called a traitor as that has a specific meaning. He does appear to follow most of the rules; it's just that the rules are rigged for those of his class and he means to not only keep it that way but to cement the class structure in this country. When he thinks of what's "good for America", he really means what's good for the rich white ruling class -- i.e. HIS version of "America".

Furthermore, the language of race war / revolution / etc has been roiling around the political world for many years now mostly on the right, and not just on the fringes. Unless you include Limbaugh and Rove and Ann Coulter and Luntz and Norquist and others, as "fringe", when they have shaped the right and shaped the discourse for decades now. So now when some of us on the progressive side want to call people like Romney out, suddenly it's on us that the political discourse has coarsened? Suddenly it's on us that families are having issues, or that there is a cold / cool / tepid civil war in progress? I'm not buying it.

Now it is true, when fighting an enemy, it is important to not become just like them in the process. There are lines that should not be crossed, rhetorically as well in our actions. But using strong language to describe Romney and his ilk is allowed, and is in fact required, in my book, as long as the language used describes truthfully who and what he is. Which is a self-important, hugely entitled, manipulative, possibly sociopathic, plutocrat bastard.

By the way: political name-calling in American politics has been around from the beginning. Our mistake as progressives and Democrats has been to sit by and avoid the rhetorical battle, while the right seems to coin a new term every day to demonize us ("feminazis" for one example). Well now battle is joined. If we do not fight rhetorically now, we will be forced to fight later, IMO. It's that old "pay now, or pay later" dilemma: if you pay later, you always, without exception, pay more.

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Never mind [View all] nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 OP
Here! Here! GitRDun Oct 2012 #1
"Mitt Romney truly believes that what he wants for the US is what the US needs." Jim__ Oct 2012 #2
The problem is that he does nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #3
He simply cannot believe what he says... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #9
Local Mayoral candidate nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #10
I've been following politics for 50 years now... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #12
Is he a politician? Or did I miss that part? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #14
You say Mitt is not that rare of a bird... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #17
He stands out only in one respect nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #22
I can think he's wrong and think he's a liar without thinking he's Satan XemaSab Oct 2012 #15
Liar is not dehumanizing, Satan is nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #23
is it ok to Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #4
As long as not the Antichrist... nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #5
I understand and Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #6
Newt is our generations grandfather of this type of language. nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #7
Mitt Romney is a manipulative bastard... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #8
As to your first sentence, he IS a politician nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #11
I understand your larger point... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #13
Don't pull punches, call them on it, regardless of who does it nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #16
Sorry... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #18
Did I say don't take the fight? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #20
If you think that some DUer somewhere is using that sort of language... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #29
You can date it nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #31
Please provide some evidence... ljm2002 Oct 2012 #38
Well that is one step nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #39
Post this in FR with the name changed to President Obama sadbear Oct 2012 #19
I know what will happen nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #21
My point is that a lot of DU'ers AGREE with you sadbear Oct 2012 #26
Here is the deal, this has to be made so unacceptable nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #27
I have ZERO faith in the other side sadbear Oct 2012 #28
It is not about the other side nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #30
I suspect they want a civil war sadbear Oct 2012 #32
Well welcome the shooting phase nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #33
I'd rather die fighting than be rounded up and executed. sadbear Oct 2012 #34
So you already accepted this nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #35
Bye. sadbear Oct 2012 #36
And you enjoy the honor and glory of war nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #37
Maybe you don't quite understand what Mitt and his right-wing buddies want to do.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #24
Wake the hell up to what? CIVIL WAR? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #25
Not evil... sanatanadharma Oct 2012 #40
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