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FreeState

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26. Yes and No

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 05:59 PM

Oct 2012

Utah was part of Mexico for about 6 months after Brigham Young's followers arrived. The Church sent soldiers to the war to make it part of the US (they arrived after the war had ended and never served, they were on their way there when it ended.)

Brigham Young originally set out for Vancouver BC Canada - not Utah or Mexico. Their purpose was not to set up a separate government - their purpose was to settle in an area where they would be left alone (the Church had been pushed out of NY, then Ohio, then Missouri and then Illinois.)

Fascist Theocracy was never part of their plan, nor has it ever been. If one does not understand the basic doctrines of the Church it would be easy to say that, however one of the very basic tenants of the faith is freedom to choose your beliefs. "United Order" or the government that is mentioned in the older texts is socialism at its core. Fascism is based on Nationalism not religious identity.

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Seems to me the Romneys believe Mormonism is a government, not a religion. [View all] nolabear Oct 2012 OP

It is a cult Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #1

But that's not my point. I'm astonished how the equivalence isn't questioned. Even brought up. nolabear Oct 2012 #2

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Noticed that yesterday. Where are his medical records. ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #34

+ 10,000,000 davidpdx Oct 2012 #38

it is a cult. riverbendviewgal Oct 2012 #3

Well... Andy823 Oct 2012 #4

I've been taken aback by the same issue you bring up.... TxBluebonnetDem Oct 2012 #10

A lot of Christian Protestants feel the same way. You've just described Evangelism. yardwork Oct 2012 #12

They're ALL cults Politicalboi Oct 2012 #5

No, in point of fact, "they" are not. Or are you Humpty-Dumpty, WinkyDink Oct 2012 #24

There are many cults agent46 Oct 2012 #7

So do all "cults" believe they are governments? Sorry if I'm being obvious but it's hit home. nolabear Oct 2012 #8

I lived in rural SW Utah for 2 years and Morms are the government and feel byeya Oct 2012 #14

ditto in sw idaho. aletier_v Oct 2012 #18

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I've been reading it as well. It's shocking. nolabear Oct 2012 #35

That may be the goal. tanyev Oct 2012 #13

It is a toxic mentally poisonous cult ...and probably to blame for Rmoney's mental problems. L0oniX Oct 2012 #15

Mormons seem to have the idea that they are huge in the grand scheme of things siligut Oct 2012 #16

Triple-"yes" to your last points. Secretive, treasonous, and 100% indifferent to non-Mormons. 100%. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #25

The Mormons moved to Utah when it was part of Mexico. Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #19

Yes and No FreeState Oct 2012 #26

You forgot the freedom to commit statutory rape. Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #37

RWers don't believe there should be a distinction 0rganism Oct 2012 #20

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Thanks, I had forgotten about the White Horse Prophecy. DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #29

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Understanding Romney's view of Mormonism kurt_cagle Oct 2012 #31

Very interesting theory aletier_v Oct 2012 #33

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It's so hard to feel as if I'm limiting religious freedom but I won't be a pawn. nolabear Oct 2012 #36