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berni_mccoy

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79. They are putting out public statements

Mon Oct 18, 2021, 06:22 PM

Oct 2021

Politically, it would not serve them to bash Powell. I read Obama’s statement. It’s not exactly praise either, but you can read it how you want.

Biden and Clinton both bought Powell’s lie, hook line and sinker, so there is a matter of consistency for them.

I’m not bound by their limitations. And I refuse to speak anything other than the Truth when it comes to what Powell has done to this country.

As for this reality you speak of, you see a need to put words in my mouth that aren’t there. I have not said any of those people should retract their statements. But please continue to make shit up.

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Fuck! Enough Already! Colin Powell is why America is where it is! [View all] berni_mccoy Oct 2021 OP

Right. His deliberate and knowing lies made me forever lose all respect for him. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2021 #1

Starting at least as far back as My Lai. ret5hd Oct 2021 #2

He goes back to that!?! BigmanPigman Oct 2021 #64

He WAS the coverup. ret5hd Oct 2021 #69

Amen! blueinredohio Oct 2021 #3

To me...Powell was in the supporting role of that play stillcool Oct 2021 #4

Powell was key to convincing several Democrats to vote berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #10

that's on them... stillcool Oct 2021 #15

It's on Powell as well. berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #47

Colin Powell didn't vote to invade stillcool Oct 2021 #88

Yes, but the majority of Democrats in Congress were not gullible Mysterian Oct 2021 #48

Biden, HRC, etc. berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #50

I agree. Powell was not the source wnylib Oct 2021 #65

exactly llashram Oct 2021 #67

Powell had a reputation of being honest, the entire World believed him. He fooled us all. Escurumbele Oct 2021 #71

I was far more upset OriginalGeek Oct 2021 #5

Same thing I said when I heard. LakeArenal Oct 2021 #29

I wonder if Juanita Beasley is still alive? johnp3907 Oct 2021 #40

So apparently nobody can acknowledge their mistakes and change... brooklynite Oct 2021 #6

They can. Powell fell short of that. berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #7

"Biden mourns loss of Colin Powell: 'He will be remembered as one of our great Americans'" brooklynite Oct 2021 #8

Of course Biden does. Powell convinced Biden to support the war berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #13

But HE can be forgiven, right? brooklynite Oct 2021 #19

I don't believe Powell ever asked for it berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Salviati Oct 2021 #58

Meh. progressoid Oct 2021 #96

Horse shit El Supremo Oct 2021 #21

Biden has said the same for McCain LakeArenal Oct 2021 #31

+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #77

He was a career Military Officer JustAnotherGen Oct 2021 #9

That is not a valid excuse for Powell's betrayal berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #14

That's your opinion JustAnotherGen Oct 2021 #91

I blame Darth Cheney and Shrub. roamer65 Oct 2021 #11

Without Powell, many Democrats would not have voted for war in Iraq berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #12

Very true. roamer65 Oct 2021 #16

Valery Plame and Joe Wilson are the reasons why Powell had to lie berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #42

Yes he did. roamer65 Oct 2021 #55

Without the Intel community selling him a bill of goods, Powell may not have gone down that road. joetheman Oct 2021 #27

Powell cannot pretend to believe he wasn't lying berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #41

I remember. Haggard Celine Oct 2021 #56

YES. THANK YOU. elleng Oct 2021 #30

The wingnuts will bestow sainthood on him Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #17

not the current ones. JohnSJ Oct 2021 #26

Thank you. ZZenith Oct 2021 #18

Meh... John Ludi Oct 2021 #20

Which is part of my main point. berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #44

Exactly. John Ludi Oct 2021 #92

He helped cover up the mai lai massacre IbogaProject Oct 2021 #22

and who do you think lied us into that war in the first place JohnSJ Oct 2021 #25

Every single Officer involved JustAnotherGen Oct 2021 #93

Just think. Old Colin will know have a chance to tell Jesus about N. Korea's yellow cake. Lol. johnthewoodworker Oct 2021 #23

Really? I would venture to say that Ralph Nader, and others, etc. had probably more of an effect JohnSJ Oct 2021 #24

Thank you JustAnotherGen Oct 2021 #94

all too true bringthePaine Oct 2021 #28

Powell didn't make a "mistake", he made a choice. bluesbassman Oct 2021 #32

With all these negative comments about Powell we should remember one fact....... KS Toronado Oct 2021 #33

Powell was used DownriverDem Oct 2021 #34

This. ShazzieB Oct 2021 #38

That may be true but he knew it berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #45

Yep. Preach! calimary Oct 2021 #35

Powell . . . got us Trump? OneBro Oct 2021 #37

I am pretty confident that if Powell had not convinced so many berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #39

He definitely gave credibility to the scheme. OneBro Oct 2021 #89

Agree---People not showing up to vote got us Trump crimycarny Oct 2021 #43

You obviously weren't here at DU and certainly weren't paying attention berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #46

Attendance was down in key metropolitan precincts. Kid Berwyn Oct 2021 #49

I was here and I agree with you. nt joetheman Oct 2021 #53

Conflating the election isn't the truth berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #76

No, I referred to Manafort passing election info to Kilimnik. Kid Berwyn Oct 2021 #86

I'm not sure what you mean? crimycarny Oct 2021 #52

DU is representative of nothing but DU. TwilightZone Oct 2021 #85

as part of BUSH INC he helped to lie America into a senseless war Skittles Oct 2021 #59

Grover Norquist gave us GW Bush and trump. Remember when he said Escurumbele Oct 2021 #73

DURec leftstreet Oct 2021 #51

I am neither celebrating nor mourning his death. Initech Oct 2021 #54

Oh good grief. Thomas Jefferson had slaves. Xolodno Oct 2021 #57

Bad people do good, yes. And redemption can be had berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #63

Thanks! Good to keep things in perspective. nt reACTIONary Oct 2021 #66

I hope he doesn't have a good afterlife SunImp Oct 2021 #60

Also, didn't he block Clinton's order on gays in the svc? Basic LA Oct 2021 #61

Bravo.....Well Said DENVERPOPS Oct 2021 #62

It did not make any difference if Powell was for or against the war or what he said. marie999 Oct 2021 #68

I'm gonna strongly disagree with that. I protested Iraq berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #72

Thank you, I have been writing about the same exact thing here in DU all day. Escurumbele Oct 2021 #70

Nobody is forcing you to listen to the praise Biden, Obama, the Clintons are heaping on Powell Kaleva Oct 2021 #74

IDGAF who praises Powell. If you want to live in fantasy land that's your choice berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #75

I prefer to live in a reality based world Kaleva Oct 2021 #78

They are putting out public statements berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #79

How are you going to set the record straight then? Kaleva Oct 2021 #81

Tell me exactly what exactly is untrue in their statements berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #82

It's what they are not saying that is probably important to you. Kaleva Oct 2021 #83

That's about as relevant as your initial response to the OP. berni_mccoy Oct 2021 #84

Powell was a war criminal, he lied to give cover to a war of aggression Celerity Oct 2021 #80

Thank you for speaking truth to power. Autumn Oct 2021 #87

People now say "Thank god Gen. Milley stopped Trump, imagine if he hadn't" traitorsgalore Oct 2021 #90

And in turn made my husband a Disabled Veteran AwakeAtLast Oct 2021 #95

I'm afraid I have to reluctantly agree. If Powell lived up to what he said he believed, he would Martin68 Oct 2021 #97