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Celerity

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Wed Oct 20, 2021, 02:59 PM
Oct 2021

there are a lot of ifs and unknowns in that article

he is considering leaving the Democratic Party if President Joe Biden and Democrats on Capitol Hill do not agree to his demand to cut the size of the social infrastructure bill from $3.5 trillion to $1.75 trillion, according to people who have heard Manchin discuss this. Manchin has said that if this were to happen, he would declare himself an “American Independent.” And he has devised a detailed exit strategy for his departure.


He told associates that he has a two-step plan for exiting the party. First, he would send a letter to Sen. Chuck Schumer, the top Senate Democrat, removing himself from the Democratic leadership of the Senate. (He is vice chairman of the Senate Democrats’ policy and communications committee.) Manchin hopes that would send a signal. He would then wait and see if that move had any impact on the negotiations. After about a week, he said, he would change his voter registration from Democrat to independent.

It is unclear whether in this scenario Manchin would end up caucusing with the Democrats, which would allow them to continue to control the Senate, or side with the Republicans and place the Senate in GOP hands. In either event, he would hold great sway over this half of Congress.

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If he (or any democrat) did switch, moscow mitch would be back in control. PSPS Oct 2021 #1
He could abandon the party but still caucus with them. Gore1FL Oct 2021 #6
I contend that he already has.... nebby70 Oct 2021 #2
David Corn is the MoJo reporter that wrote the story. Ninga Oct 2021 #3
Oh, I'm sure Manchin had this all planned. Leak it then deny it. It's a threat. JoanofArgh Oct 2021 #8
So would be: "Gee, let's investigate Manchin's daughter for possible pharma criming" TheBlackAdder Oct 2021 #11
Which R's would have done at the turn of a dime had situation been reversed. hlthe2b Oct 2021 #15
Yep. I get the feeling the only thing protecting her is the Manchin name. You or I in prison by now. TheBlackAdder Oct 2021 #16
Certainly, if it is ego-driven... Salviati Oct 2021 #4
I dunno if he's actually thinking of switching... TDale313 Oct 2021 #5
+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #7
From the reporting yesterday, it sounds like Biden's already agreed to cut the size AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #12
It has been going down down down in the press reports Celerity Oct 2021 #17
Look in the mirror, Manchin C_U_L8R Oct 2021 #9
He's not flipping Johnny2X2X Oct 2021 #10
Such a well spoken, articulate gentleman. UTUSN Oct 2021 #13
"Fer shame, fer shame! Someone has 'a misquoted me! Fer shame! No one woulda eva believed that!" hlthe2b Oct 2021 #14
Going independent is dangerous. Xolodno Oct 2021 #18
A loyal' Democrat. keithbvadu2 Oct 2021 #19
Let the bidding begin Crataegus Oct 2021 #20
The only bullshit MFM008 Oct 2021 #21
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