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Kennah

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30. It appears that Manslaughter and Third Degree Murder are lesser included offenses for Zimmerman

Reply to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #28)

Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:14 PM

Oct 2012

Here are the charges.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/11/zimmerman.charges.pdf

782.04(2) is Second Degree (Depraved Mind) Murder
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String&URL=0700-0799/0782/Sections/0782.04.html

According to the Florida Supreme Court, Schedule of Lesser Included Offenses, Manslaughter and Third Degree (Felony) Murder are lesser included offenses. The tinyurl link is a Google generated HTML link of the RTF document link below.
http://tinyurl.com/9v6347p
http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/jury_instructions/chapters/chapter33/schedlesserincludoffens.rtf

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So they gave a lot of private stuff about Trayvon to Zimmerman's lawyer, huh? [View all] Stinky The Clown Oct 2012 OP

Robbery they could , rape victims have shield laws former-republican Oct 2012 #1

But guess what atreides1 Oct 2012 #2

either way you won't get 12 jurors? to convict him on 2nd degree murder former-republican Oct 2012 #3

Voluntary Manslaughter is still a felony for which he'll do time Kennah Oct 2012 #4

Tough to prove former-republican Oct 2012 #6

Voluntary and involuntary manslaughter are usually lesser included offenses Kennah Oct 2012 #7

I agree former-republican Oct 2012 #9

Are You sure you are a former? rbrnmw Oct 2012 #25

I'm someone who doesn't let the MSM make my decision for me former-republican Oct 2012 #27

Can you kindly tell me what is it that gives you the impression that Zimmerman will walk? Hutzpa Oct 2012 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #34

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All that is whole bunch of nothing new Hutzpa Oct 2012 #41

lets see what the jury decides former-republican Oct 2012 #42

You can't be serious, unless you're still living in Glenbeckistan Kennah Oct 2012 #8

what is that? former-republican Oct 2012 #10

The place where Glenn Beck listeners go to listen Kennah Oct 2012 #12

Are you saying he did not commit a crime or that a jury will not convict ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #13

I'm saying that I believe one juror former-republican Oct 2012 #18

I want to recall that there as been discussion previously of lesser charges ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #28

It appears that Manslaughter and Third Degree Murder are lesser included offenses for Zimmerman Kennah Oct 2012 #30

In some states they can drop the lesser charges to pressure the jury with only one option. ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #32

Your skepticism may be right, and I will admit to being a foolish optimist ... Kennah Oct 2012 #33

And it's totally irrelevant Nevernose Oct 2012 #5

Whether Martin attacked him is indeed relevant. Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #36

At the same time, Zimmerman's lawyers are fighting to protect his privacy Hugabear Oct 2012 #11

Every attorney fights to protect their client's privacy--nothing suspicious there. But, if the Xedniw Oct 2012 #15

Zimmerman's defense has a right to this information, unlike a rape victim's info because Xedniw Oct 2012 #14

lol HiPointDem Oct 2012 #16

Uh, pulling a gun and killing someone isn't considered self-defense against an un-armed person. JaneyVee Oct 2012 #19

It can be under certain circumstances former-republican Oct 2012 #20

Yes...it is. Think woman fighting off a potential rapist. msanthrope Oct 2012 #21

It can be a man fighting off an attacker also former-republican Oct 2012 #24

A pretty good summary--I am of the opinion that GZ should have msanthrope Oct 2012 #23

The only higher is 1st degree former-republican Oct 2012 #26

Yes--and here's an OP I wrote about it--it's a point being missed in the noise. msanthrope Oct 2012 #29

That wouldn't wash at all. Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #38

"Jaybus Fucking Kerist on a Trailer Hitch." unhappycamper Oct 2012 #17

That is beyond disgusting rbrnmw Oct 2012 #22

Martin was a minor, but not what the law would call a child. He was months away from being an adult. Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #39

IANAL but isn't that called "discovery"? (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #35

Yes the defense gets to see the case against him/her. That is how the justice system works rustydog Oct 2012 #37