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ChoppinBroccoli

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15. So If States Can Just "Opt Out" Of Federal Laws...........

Fri Oct 22, 2021, 10:42 PM

Oct 2021

............couldn't some State (or STATES, for that matter) simply declare that they're "opting out" of the Second Amendment and just ban all guns? Same concept.

Oh, and by the way, remember THIS when Republicans tell you how much they love the Constitution. They're actively trying to just not follow the parts of it they don't like.

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Florida looking at withdrawing from OSHA [View all] Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP

Fuck that cesspool. CurtEastPoint Oct 2021 #1

I agree AJT Oct 2021 #6

Yeah, me too skydive forever Oct 2021 #24

I feel your pain... AJT Oct 2021 #47

+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #7

How the fuck can they just arbitrarily 'opt-out'? That violates the supremacy clause, no? Celerity Oct 2021 #2

They cannot overcome the supremacy clause. It's political posturing. TomSlick Oct 2021 #16

It is not posturing. former9thward Oct 2021 #20

Nevertheless, it's posturing. TomSlick Oct 2021 #22

Federal OSHA law allows states to opt out former9thward Oct 2021 #26

States can opt out of OSHA regulations IF they have an OSHA approved state plan. TomSlick Oct 2021 #29

I didn't say regulations. former9thward Oct 2021 #31

Ah. But the story is about Florida opting out of OSHA oversight to avoid vaccination regulations. TomSlick Oct 2021 #33

OSHA has a grand total of 700 inspectors in the field at any given time. former9thward Oct 2021 #37

And yet, I have seen employers in the backwaters of Arkansas quaking in their boots TomSlick Oct 2021 #45

Here's a number from November 2020: mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2021 #52

I agree with your take BootinUp Oct 2021 #58

They can't SCantiGOP Oct 2021 #17

22 states have opted out including CA former9thward Oct 2021 #19

thanks Celerity Oct 2021 #23

I had NO IDEA this was possible! bluestarone Oct 2021 #60

No because those are under federal jurisdiction. former9thward Oct 2021 #62

Via Tom Slick's post - they can only opt out IF Maru Kitteh Oct 2021 #64

WTF is wrong with Florida? Were they always this nuts or is De Santis making it worse? n/t Blaukraut Oct 2021 #3

Florida is steep in backwater channels. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #13

All the bad things I've previously said about florida lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #4

The US military and NASA can move out too ... see how they do then (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #9

Riiiiight. lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #11

I agree, lindysalsagal. -nt Diamond_Dog Oct 2021 #14

But then, of course, they'd become just another Latin American narco-state we'd have to worry about peppertree Oct 2021 #25

Yep. The Florida/Georgia border region would become the site of an insane, endless drug war. nt Progressive Jones Oct 2021 #42

Buh-bye. Don't come crying that you want back in when you can't make it work Walleye Oct 2021 #5

Why would it not work. NoRethugFriends Oct 2021 #8

Better yet, just withdraw from the USA. sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #10

DeSantis started with the hand gestures. Now, he's mimicking Chump's approach bullwinkle428 Oct 2021 #12

So If States Can Just "Opt Out" Of Federal Laws........... ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2021 #15

Many states passed legal marijuana even though it is still illegal under federal law MichMan Oct 2021 #18

But it is still a federal crime. marie999 Oct 2021 #49

Federal OSHA law allows states to opt out former9thward Oct 2021 #21

floriduh get's hit with a bad hurricane, can we op-out helping them ? monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #28

If by "we" you mean the Biden administration, the answer is yes. former9thward Oct 2021 #30

ya',I know, deathsentence just piss's me off ! got kid's that live in that state ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #32

also azureblue Oct 2021 #34

thank's for mental adjustment ! everybody need's that once in awhile ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #40

More coup. n/t Bobstandard Oct 2021 #27

What else do they want out of? JohnnyRingo Oct 2021 #35

Vaccination for/against is the gift that keeps on dividing. Baked Potato Oct 2021 #36

Sure, but they can't avoid OSHA regulations. Just more MAGA posturing for his '24 run. PSPS Oct 2021 #38

"Safety glasses are overreach!," shouts 1-eyed Florida man. Bristlecone Oct 2021 #39

let me translate this........... Takket Oct 2021 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Oct 2021 #43

How about Traildogbob Oct 2021 #44

That would hurt many poor people not the governors. marie999 Oct 2021 #50

And the governors Traildogbob Oct 2021 #51

Florida and Texas are trying to establish the ultimate escape havens for businesses... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2021 #46

It won't work with us DFW Oct 2021 #54

WTF live love laugh Oct 2021 #48

I had a thread in the Economy group a few days back that went into OSHA and state plans. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2021 #53

Saved me some typing there Sympthsical Oct 2021 #55

Excellent info, we are exempt from OSHA at my job madville Oct 2021 #61

How is that legal? OSHA is mandatory from a Federal level fescuerescue Oct 2021 #56

Please read one of the many posts explaining how federal law allows states to opt out of OSHA. onenote Oct 2021 #57

Well, to be fair, in 40 or 50 years parts of FLA will probably be largely underwater. Tommymac Oct 2021 #59

once a slaveowner society -- but you can't just wish it back librechik Oct 2021 #63

Madison Cawthorn wants to gut OSHA he said IcyPeas Oct 2021 #65