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91. What xenophobia comment?

Fri Oct 22, 2021, 09:55 PM

Oct 2021

I explained. The marriage happened in China because I lived there from 2008-2020. The marriage was in 2014 in the Jiangsu provincial capital of Nanjing.

When we registered the marriage, we received an official copy in China with a certified English translation, stamped and notarized by the Chinese government in Nanjing. Two days later, we went to the US Consulate in Shanghai and registered the marriage. We were given an official stamped document from the US Government recognizing the marriage and making it official in the US as well.

CBP in SEATAC didn't even look at that. They say her visa and determined she wasn't eligible to come into the states to reunite with her husband to do her green card through adjustment of status. they humiliated her, insulted her, and sent her home.

So we have been doing consular processing since. The USCIS approved our documents. The NVC rejected them as they said the marriage was fraudulent even though we included all documents from the Chinese government and the American consulate.

How is this on the Chinese government? The Americans refused to accept OUR own document from OUR consulate overseas.

Where do you get insults? Where do you get xenophobia?

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Well done! Voltaire2 Oct 2021 #85

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What xenophobia comment? AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #91

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Ridiculous treestar Oct 2021 #111

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This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Oct 2021 #123

To apply and to come up with the marriage certificate treestar Oct 2021 #35

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you were complaining US spouses aren't cared about treestar Oct 2021 #67

My wife was denied because NVC thinks my marriage cert is fraudulent even though AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #72

Well you don't agree with their decision treestar Oct 2021 #110

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It would help if you actually knew what "fraudulent" means in this instance Spider Jerusalem Oct 2021 #128

Don't ask me. This was their communication to me AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #129

Can you not ask for clarification? BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #132

They just said it was fraudulent. There was no other explanation AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #134

Well, then all I can say is to tell the consulate that. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #137

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There are two reasons they'd declare a marriage fraudulent. Spider Jerusalem Oct 2021 #142

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But after a consulate denies a case, the consulate sends the treestar Oct 2021 #109

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Nationally, where are the broadcasts about this? AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #12

Okay. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #18

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I'll try to help WilmywoodNCparalegal Oct 2021 #29

To reply AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #31

#4 - there is a pathway. OP is on it. It is treestar Oct 2021 #71

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Expatriate status Tetrachloride Oct 2021 #44

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Mexico, Chile, Japan have possibilities. i am in my 9th year overseas Tetrachloride Oct 2021 #56

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This message was self-deleted by its author Tetrachloride Oct 2021 #55

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Laywers can only help at the USCIS level, not at the NVC level AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #39

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This message was self-deleted by its author AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #49

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All we get is that the consulate thought it was fraudulent treestar Oct 2021 #69

My God. It was approved by the US Consulate in Shanghai and they still said it was AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #75

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If they think the certificate is forged treestar Oct 2021 #108

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But she's in China, right? BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #121

Marry again? So you are suggesting divorcing my wife? AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #118

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student visas and H1 visas are $$$ money for someone. Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #74

EB-5 visas also. TexasTowelie Oct 2021 #86

will look up that scandal.. heard something about it Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #89

I posted several threads about it in the Vermont Group. TexasTowelie Oct 2021 #92

will do Demovictory9 Oct 2021 #95

first, report your stalkers to Admin and put them on IGNORE Skittles Oct 2021 #93

THe stalkers are not on DU. They are lurkers AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #94

So this is more about building a campaign case for immigration reform then? Budi Oct 2021 #114

No, this is more about reuniting with my wife and me trying to figure out why AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #116

Of course. Budi Oct 2021 #147

The advice goes against the INA and how it's enforced AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #150

Yes, I'm seeing the same. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #124

You have been beyong condescending. AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #139

Best to put people on ignore if you don't want them on a thread where you asked for advice. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #140

Okay. bye. AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #143

I'll add myself to those you've attacked for simply giving suggestions as you asked in your OP. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #145

Thanks. . Budi Oct 2021 #148

Quite a thread, huh? BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #149

Ok C'mon. That's a campaign speech now. WE GET IT. Budi Oct 2021 #151

You are beyond insulting telling me that I am using my wife as a campaign plank AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #152

Guess you're not getting an answer. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #153

Only conclusion left in the bag of possibile conclusions. Budi Oct 2021 #155

... BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #156

Under what circumstances did you get married? Generic Brad Oct 2021 #103

Jewish wedding in China after three years of dating AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #119

I wish you both the best of luck Generic Brad Oct 2021 #160

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I hope this all works out for the best. Captain Stern Oct 2021 #113

Contact every person on this list. Shake every 🌲 until fruit falls into your hand. Celerity Oct 2021 #127

Excellent. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #133

I am not at USCIS. I'm at the NVC AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #135

I know, but it is all under the same umbrella ☔☔☂️ Celerity Oct 2021 #159

No, the USCIS is in the DHS. NVC is in Dept of State. AZLD4Candidate Oct 2021 #161

Well, those people will surely have contacts in DoS. Celerity Oct 2021 #162

Well, you tried. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #154

Many of us did. BlackSkimmer Oct 2021 #157