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Maru Kitteh

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64. Via Tom Slick's post - they can only opt out IF

Sat Oct 23, 2021, 10:53 PM

Oct 2021

they have OSHA-approved state agencies in place to enforce the same standards. So that means opting out would have no effect on the mandate.

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Florida looking at withdrawing from OSHA [View all] Nevilledog Oct 2021 OP

Fuck that cesspool. CurtEastPoint Oct 2021 #1

I agree AJT Oct 2021 #6

Yeah, me too skydive forever Oct 2021 #24

I feel your pain... AJT Oct 2021 #47

+1 Celerity Oct 2021 #7

How the fuck can they just arbitrarily 'opt-out'? That violates the supremacy clause, no? Celerity Oct 2021 #2

They cannot overcome the supremacy clause. It's political posturing. TomSlick Oct 2021 #16

It is not posturing. former9thward Oct 2021 #20

Nevertheless, it's posturing. TomSlick Oct 2021 #22

Federal OSHA law allows states to opt out former9thward Oct 2021 #26

States can opt out of OSHA regulations IF they have an OSHA approved state plan. TomSlick Oct 2021 #29

I didn't say regulations. former9thward Oct 2021 #31

Ah. But the story is about Florida opting out of OSHA oversight to avoid vaccination regulations. TomSlick Oct 2021 #33

OSHA has a grand total of 700 inspectors in the field at any given time. former9thward Oct 2021 #37

And yet, I have seen employers in the backwaters of Arkansas quaking in their boots TomSlick Oct 2021 #45

Here's a number from November 2020: mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2021 #52

I agree with your take BootinUp Oct 2021 #58

They can't SCantiGOP Oct 2021 #17

22 states have opted out including CA former9thward Oct 2021 #19

thanks Celerity Oct 2021 #23

I had NO IDEA this was possible! bluestarone Oct 2021 #60

No because those are under federal jurisdiction. former9thward Oct 2021 #62

Via Tom Slick's post - they can only opt out IF Maru Kitteh Oct 2021 #64

WTF is wrong with Florida? Were they always this nuts or is De Santis making it worse? n/t Blaukraut Oct 2021 #3

Florida is steep in backwater channels. Baitball Blogger Oct 2021 #13

All the bad things I've previously said about florida lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #4

The US military and NASA can move out too ... see how they do then (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Oct 2021 #9

Riiiiight. lindysalsagal Oct 2021 #11

I agree, lindysalsagal. -nt Diamond_Dog Oct 2021 #14

But then, of course, they'd become just another Latin American narco-state we'd have to worry about peppertree Oct 2021 #25

Yep. The Florida/Georgia border region would become the site of an insane, endless drug war. nt Progressive Jones Oct 2021 #42

Buh-bye. Don't come crying that you want back in when you can't make it work Walleye Oct 2021 #5

Why would it not work. NoRethugFriends Oct 2021 #8

Better yet, just withdraw from the USA. sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #10

DeSantis started with the hand gestures. Now, he's mimicking Chump's approach bullwinkle428 Oct 2021 #12

So If States Can Just "Opt Out" Of Federal Laws........... ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2021 #15

Many states passed legal marijuana even though it is still illegal under federal law MichMan Oct 2021 #18

But it is still a federal crime. marie999 Oct 2021 #49

Federal OSHA law allows states to opt out former9thward Oct 2021 #21

floriduh get's hit with a bad hurricane, can we op-out helping them ? monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #28

If by "we" you mean the Biden administration, the answer is yes. former9thward Oct 2021 #30

ya',I know, deathsentence just piss's me off ! got kid's that live in that state ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #32

also azureblue Oct 2021 #34

thank's for mental adjustment ! everybody need's that once in awhile ! monkeyman1 Oct 2021 #40

More coup. n/t Bobstandard Oct 2021 #27

What else do they want out of? JohnnyRingo Oct 2021 #35

Vaccination for/against is the gift that keeps on dividing. Baked Potato Oct 2021 #36

Sure, but they can't avoid OSHA regulations. Just more MAGA posturing for his '24 run. PSPS Oct 2021 #38

"Safety glasses are overreach!," shouts 1-eyed Florida man. Bristlecone Oct 2021 #39

let me translate this........... Takket Oct 2021 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author BootinUp Oct 2021 #43

How about Traildogbob Oct 2021 #44

That would hurt many poor people not the governors. marie999 Oct 2021 #50

And the governors Traildogbob Oct 2021 #51

Florida and Texas are trying to establish the ultimate escape havens for businesses... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2021 #46

It won't work with us DFW Oct 2021 #54

WTF live love laugh Oct 2021 #48

I had a thread in the Economy group a few days back that went into OSHA and state plans. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2021 #53

Saved me some typing there Sympthsical Oct 2021 #55

Excellent info, we are exempt from OSHA at my job madville Oct 2021 #61

How is that legal? OSHA is mandatory from a Federal level fescuerescue Oct 2021 #56

Please read one of the many posts explaining how federal law allows states to opt out of OSHA. onenote Oct 2021 #57

Well, to be fair, in 40 or 50 years parts of FLA will probably be largely underwater. Tommymac Oct 2021 #59

once a slaveowner society -- but you can't just wish it back librechik Oct 2021 #63

Madison Cawthorn wants to gut OSHA he said IcyPeas Oct 2021 #65