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17. "or whether that was a product of the hubris gained by the benefit of having four years entrenched i

Reply to Tommy Carcetti (Original post)

Tue Oct 26, 2021, 02:25 PM

Oct 2021

They could have worked to gain that hubris even though not in power. And, after the midterms, they would have been very much in power in Congress. And McConnell had already deprived Obama of even consideration of one SCOTUS judge. That would have contined. All of that leads to hubris too. Hillary was on to them, but most of us weren't. It's quite a thought exercise.

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+1 Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2021 #23

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