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In reply to the discussion: Beware of People Pretending to Be on Our Side [View all]moniss
(9,076 posts)you say is true but also what others are saying is true also. There is no longer time. Not for the climate change, not for the democracy and not for the people. Crumbs at a time are no longer able to keep things going. I respect most of your opinions but the fact is you and those advising to take a gutted bill and "wait" for more somewhere possibly down the road do not see that if we had taken the same approach during Vietnam we would likely have been there at least as long as the Afghan deal if not longer. People need to understand hard realities. Daycare in my area is averaging almost $150.00 per day per child. What is the incrementalist answer for average young parents who need help right now today and not "next election" or "maybe the one after that"? The same goes for seniors on Medicare who are told to sit by for another few years and take a free coffee at McDonalds while the wealthy and the corporations have another course of prime rib.
The same is true for measures to mitigate the damage brought on by climate change. More "global conferences" without real action are nothing but cover for high pronouncements about intent and cover for inaction beyond a few more incrementalist crumbs. Always endless money for the wealthy and the corporations but when it comes to the people then the powers that be want to cry they can't afford it. I've watched over 6 decades of this incrementalist crap get us to the edge of losing democracy itself. I am done with appeasement of the people like Manchin and Sinema even if that means things get stalled completely. There is much that can be done to make it clear to both of them that the activists and the party will poor massive resources into burning their careers to the ground. But that looks like it won't happen because the incrementalists are determined to announce ahead of time before any program or bill is even discussed that they are in mortal fear of the opposition and are willing to give up nearly everything until the other side stops demanding concessions. Neville Chamberlain would be proud.