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In reply to the discussion: Secret Rituals - We haz them. [View all]Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)10. I don''t see the rituals as a big deal.
Are they odd? Sure, but that's not what's seems to be the real core of the issue.
The real issue, as I see it, is how far apart they are from the strident beliefs of Evangelicals. Who are now pretending they've not been against Mormons being part of their brand of Christianity since the inception of the faith.
This article touches on some of the real differences. The core beliefs between the two brands of religion which are in opposition to each other.
On the most fundamental issue, traditional Christians believe in the Trinity: that God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all rolled into one.
Mormons reject this as a non-biblical creed that emerged in the fourth and fifth centuries. They believe that God the Father and Jesus are separate physical beings, and that God has a wife whom they call Heavenly Mother.
It is not only evangelical Christians who object to these ideas.
Thats just not Christian, said the Rev. Serene Jones, president of Union Theological Seminary, a liberal Protestant seminary in New York City. God and Jesus are not separate physical beings. That would be anathema. At the end of the day, all the other stuff doesnt matter except the divinity of Jesus.
The Mormon Church says that in the early 1800s, its first prophet, Joseph Smith, had revelations that restored Christianity to its true path, a course correction necessary because previous Christian churches had corrupted the faith. Smith bequeathed to his church volumes of revelations contained in scripture used only by Mormons: The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ, The Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price.
Traditional Christians do not recognize any of those as Scripture.
Another big sticking point concerns the afterlife. Early Mormon apostles gave talks asserting that human beings would become like gods and inherit their own planets language now regularly held up to ridicule by critics of Mormonism.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/us/politics/evangelical-christians-unease-with-romney-is-theological.html?_r=0
Mormons reject this as a non-biblical creed that emerged in the fourth and fifth centuries. They believe that God the Father and Jesus are separate physical beings, and that God has a wife whom they call Heavenly Mother.
It is not only evangelical Christians who object to these ideas.
Thats just not Christian, said the Rev. Serene Jones, president of Union Theological Seminary, a liberal Protestant seminary in New York City. God and Jesus are not separate physical beings. That would be anathema. At the end of the day, all the other stuff doesnt matter except the divinity of Jesus.
The Mormon Church says that in the early 1800s, its first prophet, Joseph Smith, had revelations that restored Christianity to its true path, a course correction necessary because previous Christian churches had corrupted the faith. Smith bequeathed to his church volumes of revelations contained in scripture used only by Mormons: The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ, The Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price.
Traditional Christians do not recognize any of those as Scripture.
Another big sticking point concerns the afterlife. Early Mormon apostles gave talks asserting that human beings would become like gods and inherit their own planets language now regularly held up to ridicule by critics of Mormonism.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/us/politics/evangelical-christians-unease-with-romney-is-theological.html?_r=0
The question is how can the leaders of the Evangelicals suddenly turn against their core beliefs? Do their followers even realize how far apart Mormonism is from their brand of religion? I'm willing to bet many of them don't. They've been following the dogma as told to them by their church leaders without questioning it for far too long. All their heads are filled with now is that the president is to be voted against. Yet in their doing so they're over looking what they're voting for.
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Full examination of people you hand the nuclear launch codes is normal prudence
cthulu2016
Oct 2012
#1
As an ex/reformed member of The Eagles I can now reveal the secret handshake and password.
brewens
Oct 2012
#2
Bottom line, Mormonism is FAR from Christianity, both in beliefs and rituals.
Barack_America
Oct 2012
#7
I know a few Mormons and have done blood drives at their churches. I kind of wonder if for
brewens
Oct 2012
#8
But these particular rituals reinforce some nasty concepts - like gender inequality as one example
riderinthestorm
Oct 2012
#9
Yes, and the Roman Catholic Church also doesn't support gender equality, including
MineralMan
Oct 2012
#14
Biden has unequivocally stated he firmly believes in the seperation of church and state
riderinthestorm
Oct 2012
#42
While some will do that, there will be others who simply will not go to the polls
MineralMan
Oct 2012
#41
Ahh ha - the anticipated Ritual Blowoff of Willard's sTraNge MOrMOn ritual thinGy
Berlum
Oct 2012
#17
Rituals mean nothing until the cult or religion is in a position to do something about them....
OldDem2012
Oct 2012
#25