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leveymg

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15. The locals knew he was in town because they met with him at 4pm the day before.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:03 PM
Oct 2012

See the images of the itinerary in the Post article I linked above. http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/world/sensitive-documents-left-with-little-security-at-us-mission-in-benghazi/35/

The locals all know what US officials, DOS and CIA, do in their own countries, much better than do the American people. I would say that the attack was against US interests, in general, rather than aimed specifically at either the Ambassador or the Agency people in place. There's not a big distinction in the eyes of some.

These are people who belong to groups we are willing to use for our own purposes, just like bin Laden's people in Bosnia and Kosovo, who do not see us as their allies, who the CIA let into the country in 2000 and 2001. I think sometimes that distinction is lost, particularly to the higher-ups in Washington pursuing policy agendas, such as regime change, and not so particular about who carries them out or how US officials on the ground deal with their local operatives. Stevens had a personal relationship with these operations and some of the individuals much like T.E. Lawrence did during the First World War, and he may have been too close to the subject to remain objective about the risks, both personal and of the foreseeable risks of policy failure.

Stevens was a brave and intelligent man who died in the service of his country, and no matter what my disagreements with the policy he was carrying out, I still mourn and respect him, and grieve at losses suffered by my country. I criticize policy, in particular, because I still care about these things.

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Google: house republicans cut funding for embassy security L0oniX Oct 2012 #1
Right--I got that, but this sounds like even newer information... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #5
I don't understand why this isn't the FIRST response... Whiskeytide Oct 2012 #21
RepubliBuggers cut the security budget and left the embassies VULNERABLE Berlum Oct 2012 #23
...and then blame Obama. L0oniX Oct 2012 #35
That is complete nonsense. His trip was planned weeks earlier, and his itinerary was released leveymg Oct 2012 #2
Thank you for this... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #7
I'm not sure about that.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #8
A copy of the exact itinerary was posted by the WaPo leveymg Oct 2012 #29
If true, this revelation will serve Obama in good stead tonight. WinkyDink Oct 2012 #3
If true, it is a full-blown nuclear meltdown for the Romney campaign... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #11
And all the while Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #25
Yes, and "investigation" CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #27
Didn't hear it, I do think it's very interesting, and I am stunned... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #4
Some more speculation here. mainer Oct 2012 #6
Actually, there's no question that the Ambassador was dealing personally with Libyan militia groups, leveymg Oct 2012 #9
Everyone needs to read your link! Thank you for posting!! CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #10
There is a fine line between Dept of State and CIA - many CIA are under diplomatic cover, but it leveymg Oct 2012 #12
I agree that it's unlikely a full Ambassador is CIA ... mainer Oct 2012 #13
The locals knew he was in town because they met with him at 4pm the day before. leveymg Oct 2012 #15
Right...Stevens may not have been CIA... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #16
Romney's sniping has been badly aimed from the beginning. I think he's disinformed leveymg Oct 2012 #19
A must read post. ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #18
I'm always reminded of my first experience with Geraldo Savannahmann Oct 2012 #14
It seems related to Steven's journal... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #17
Reserving judgement for now but a lot of information here to mull over. Thanks for posting K&R nt riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #20
Stevens's journal .... not a peep from CNN, who found it. mainer Oct 2012 #22
Look at how (R) Rep Peter King has changed his tune on Benghazi CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #24
Here is King on Andrea Greenspan's MSNBC show today: ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2012 #28
One thing is clear... CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #30
Wow. Even Fox News is admitting it was an attack on the CIA mainer Oct 2012 #26
And this is what pisses me off more than anything! CoffeeCat Oct 2012 #33
The two videos attached to the article on the Faux site PufPuf23 Oct 2012 #34
The only Reason there is any Issue was because Romney made up Shit and the Whore JI7 Oct 2012 #31
And if it was CIA and Issa releasing those Libyian cables with names justiceischeap Oct 2012 #32
Did you all notice Benghazi was scarcely mentioned at the debate? mainer Oct 2012 #36
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