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54. Mine don't even have that

Mon Nov 1, 2021, 03:56 PM

Nov 2021

(Yes, plural). The certificate they gave my parents when I was born just has my name and date of birth. The certificate they send me when I wrote for one says something to the effect that they have a record of my birth in the city, with again just my name and date of birth.

(City of Buffalo, NY, which for some reason doesn't like to emboss documents. One of my sisters' birth certificate is embossed - her twin's isn't.)

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More than a third of white students lie about their race on college applications [View all] Ex Lurker Nov 2021 OP

This isn't white privilege Sympthsical Nov 2021 #1

The students aren't "trying not to be white" EarlG Nov 2021 #16

Exactly NT Ex Lurker Nov 2021 #17

By this standard, anything a white person does is privilege Sympthsical Nov 2021 #27

What's that saying, "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression?" EarlG Nov 2021 #32

But this is the literal opposite of white privilege. Dr. Strange Nov 2021 #34

This is the white privilege wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #60

But how do we know? Dr. Strange Nov 2021 #86

First you should give me an instance of a non-white applicant lying about being white wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #87

Why? Dr. Strange Nov 2021 #91

If you can't specify any data supporting your claims, then your intellectual exercise is moot wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #92

My daughter was Valedictorian of her class Mossfern Nov 2021 #93

Yes. nt BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #52

But would they have been accepted anyway? live love laugh Nov 2021 #30

It absolutely is. fulllib Nov 2021 #39

It does have meaning. Caliman73 Nov 2021 #44

Which is why I include my id # tirebiter Nov 2021 #2

Lol...whiteout. Iggo Nov 2021 #83

Science says the concept of race is invalid. multigraincracker Nov 2021 #3

Income, I think CA has switched to a system that prioritizes income over race because ShazamIam Nov 2021 #15

Racism is real, even if race is not. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2021 #82

I don't think that's white privilege. Dr. Strange Nov 2021 #4

Apparently that is not accurate in academia. NT cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #74

I'm not really sure what to think about that. Like so many programs set up walkingman Nov 2021 #5

What can they do? They don't have pictures to show their face. jimfields33 Nov 2021 #25

Kick them out for lying on an application is obvious fulllib Nov 2021 #42

How could you prove someone lied about their race? NT cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #75

Depends on what race they're claiming. Lancero Nov 2021 #85

Racial fluidity in action... PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #6

I had not heard of the term racial fluidity before, but that concept actually makes some sense GregariousGroundhog Nov 2021 #88

Absent some objective criteria as to what counts as what race, we are just left with what people say PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #90

I like the response one hopeful student wrote in "human" in the Race category... CTyankee Nov 2021 #7

That is the only multigraincracker Nov 2021 #9

This is what Richard Dawkins does janterry Nov 2021 #19

That's great JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #21

And that is deliberate, and precisely why white segregationists have done it in the first place! CTyankee Nov 2021 #55

Much like President Obama, multigraincracker Nov 2021 #8

Shouldn't it have been O'Bama then? n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #11

Okay, that's a time out for you. Dr. Strange Nov 2021 #13

No one is more Irish than O'Bama multigraincracker Nov 2021 #49

Ha!... PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #50

TY. multigraincracker Nov 2021 #53

As many pointed out this is the opposite of white privilege cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #10

The same way one prooves one's gender? n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #12

lol janterry Nov 2021 #69

Taking what belongs to minorities is trading on your white privilege fulllib Nov 2021 #40

Time to stop racial considerations on applications Wingus Dingus Nov 2021 #14

Then many minorities JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #20

Does the birth certificate rule also apply to gender? MichMan Nov 2021 #22

your transphobia is showing nt Ex Lurker Nov 2021 #29

This may help you to understand. I came across it the day I signed up here. Torchlight Nov 2021 #31

Yes JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #70

Woman are the vast majority of college students cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #73

I don't believe it should be a factor anymore. Wingus Dingus Nov 2021 #24

Really - hmmmmm JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #72

I'm OK with the reparations/tax break as you describe, as well as Wingus Dingus Nov 2021 #76

Honestly there is also no way for a home loan company to know what race you are. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #77

I just checked an official copy of my birth certificate, and "SEX" is on it but race is not. PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #35

Mine don't even have that Retrograde Nov 2021 #54

My race is on mine JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #71

Mine is from Northern Ireland cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #79

Those students who lie on their applications should charged just like Lori Loughlin and those other totodeinhere Nov 2021 #61

Academics and "merit" don't work fulllib Nov 2021 #41

This is the result of the American mindset: grab everything for yourself, even if it means lying and sinkingfeeling Nov 2021 #18

White privilege is knowing you'll be questioned less about false claims, even (or perhaps WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2021 #23

This is why any free college JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #26

Whites stealing from Natives. Cobalt Violet Nov 2021 #28

My wife's father is largely Native American. hunter Nov 2021 #51

Were I a prosecutor I would charge these miscreants with some for a grand theft (felony) Stinky The Clown Nov 2021 #33

Lying is unethical. maxsolomon Nov 2021 #36

The students who responded to this survey were paid janterry Nov 2021 #47

So they're just fucking with the results for fun? maxsolomon Nov 2021 #57

oh, I don't know that janterry Nov 2021 #59

So this article leaves out an important point Takket Nov 2021 #37

My guess... Dr. Strange Nov 2021 #38

They used a company that pays people by the survey janterry Nov 2021 #46

Personally, i hope my son doesn't even want to go to college drexelkathy Nov 2021 #43

I'm a complete sucker when it comes to my kids. hunter Nov 2021 #66

This title is wrong; 1/3 of students do not lie janterry Nov 2021 #45

Thank you, that makes more sense PatSeg Nov 2021 #89

Colleges should require DNA analysis instead of self-identification Klaralven Nov 2021 #48

I think it's be hard to find a geneticist willing to provide the DNA criteria to determine race. Steelrolled Nov 2021 #63

23andMe, Ancestry, MyHeritage, etc do it all the time. Klaralven Nov 2021 #64

They tell you what your race is? Steelrolled Nov 2021 #65

They tell you where they think your DNA is from. Wingus Dingus Nov 2021 #81

Sadly needs a sarcasm tag... hunter Nov 2021 #67

I don't think science is going to back you up on that. cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #78

some number of that 48% are ignorant about what "Native American" means Orangepeel Nov 2021 #56

I bet they don't lie on job applications. ecstatic Nov 2021 #58

I imagine few colleges would question it Steelrolled Nov 2021 #62

some colleges ask for the tribal affiliation now... so many claim native american status Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #68

Extraordinary statistics PatSeg Nov 2021 #80

I posted where they came from janterry Nov 2021 #84