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MichDem10

(755 posts) Mon Nov 1, 2021, 05:20 PM Nov 2021

Time for Democrats to cut ties with Joe Manchin [View all]

I am so fed up with Manchin. It is time to strip him of his committees and make him decide if he is a Democrat or RepubliCon (ala Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman) . He has already made McTurle the de facto majority leader by refusing to support President Biden's BBB agenda. Manchin is nothing more than an obstructionist just like the RepubliCons and I believe BBB is dead no matter what. People show you who they are by their actions and Manchin does not share the vision and values of today's Democratic Party (BBB obstruction, refusal to end the filibuster, refusal to support robust VOTING RIGHTS, refusal to support climate change legislation, gutting the child tax credit, gutting covid relief payments, supporting tax code for the rich in this country, etc., etc., etc.) A leopard can not changes its spots and it is time for him to go.

I believe the report from a week or so ago that Manchin has an "exit strategy" and that he is executing it now while the President is abroad.It is time to move on and when he switches to RepuliConism the Democrats need to campaign and hammer Moscow Mitch, Money Manchin, and the RepubliCons for obstruction and holding this country hostage with THEIR GRIDLOCK. Sure it will suck but what is the freaking difference? Maybe when he switches he can participate in the bipartisanship he so much longs for. Yeah right

Exasperated in Michigan

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Time for Democrats to cut ties with Joe Manchin [View all] MichDem10 Nov 2021 OP

better to just put him on party wide ignore. dont take his calls or respond to his emails. vanish msongs Nov 2021 #1

And give his wife's appointment to someone else. Lars39 Nov 2021 #2

No...we need to keep the majority every single day that we can. If Thomas, Alito drop dead PortTack Nov 2021 #3

RE Thomas and Alito. I cannot wait for this to happen. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2021 #33

no difference between 6/3 and 7/2. bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #40

Well then why not make it 9-0? That's nonsense PortTack Nov 2021 #60

9-0 bluecollar2 Nov 2021 #64

Looks like he's doing that on his own n/t leftstreet Nov 2021 #4

... lapucelle Nov 2021 #5

I'll hold off on that until as close to 2023 as we can get. bucolic_frolic Nov 2021 #6

I wish Dems could punish the living HELL out of Manchin .. LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #10

Let's cut off our nose to spite our face. dem4decades Nov 2021 #7

Exactly right Nokillmessanger Nov 2021 #8

Some are now into "owning the MAGAts," apparently. Hortensis Nov 2021 #12

Next Summer Mordred Nov 2021 #9

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Nov 2021 #11

Manchin will likely only support a moderate, slightly conservative SCOTUS nominee Celerity Nov 2021 #13

and if McConnell is Leader then no Biden nominee will get any vote at all. ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #16

that has nothing to do with what I said, I have never once said that Manchin should switch parties Celerity Nov 2021 #21

and I said what I said. ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #22

Yes, but your comment to me was not germane to anything I have said, and implied that I somehow Celerity Nov 2021 #25

There's a lot of rationalizing going on around here. ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #29

none from me Celerity Nov 2021 #31

hahaha. That's a good one. ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #34

Oh really? How so? Do tell. You are now trying to slate me off, so put up some evidence, instead of Celerity Nov 2021 #35

He's supported every Biden judicial nominee and cabinet nominee onenote Nov 2021 #45

no, he blocked Neera Tanden for OMB head and forced Biden to pull the plug on her nomination when he Celerity Nov 2021 #55

Translation: Hand Mitch McConnell the reins of the Senate as Leader. No f'n thanks ZonkerHarris Nov 2021 #14

What the fuck? JFC. So you WANT to hand the keys to Mitch? FFS. themaguffin Nov 2021 #15

Looks like Mitch is borrowing the keys anyway. Captain Zero Nov 2021 #32

As fucked up as Manchin is making this, it will be infinitely worse with Mitch themaguffin Nov 2021 #44

No. roamer65 Nov 2021 #17

Another DUer who doesn't want Biden's judicial nominees to be confirmed. onenote Nov 2021 #18

Joe Manchin has a 100% rating of voting for President Biden's agenda. lapucelle Nov 2021 #19

Yeah, because he holds up bills that he doesn't like Polybius Nov 2021 #24

Biden hasn't had much of an agenda. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #26

$1.9 trillion in a relief funding, $1.2 trillion in hard infrastructure, and $1.75 trillion lapucelle Nov 2021 #38

Except that last one hasn't passed. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #48

That's what I said. lapucelle Nov 2021 #50

So it's not relevant to the discussion at this point. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #51

Yes it is. N/T lapucelle Nov 2021 #52

Na. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #53

You used the word "agenda". Do you know what it means? lapucelle Nov 2021 #56

Blame Manchin. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #58

that is based off final votes only, it is laughable to imply Manchin supports Biden's agenda 100% Celerity Nov 2021 #30

"Bernie Sanders Casts First Democratic Vote Against a Biden Cabinet Nominee" lapucelle Nov 2021 #36

+1 betsuni Nov 2021 #37

More spin, Sander's 2 protest votes blocked nothing, whilst Manchin and Sinema are ripping Biden's Celerity Nov 2021 #39

President Biden gave Democrats his number on October 1. It was $1.9 - $2.3 trillion. lapucelle Nov 2021 #42

That was NOT Biden's original number, as I have shown over and over and over, for months. Celerity Nov 2021 #43

It was President Biden's number on October 1. lapucelle Nov 2021 #49

Most of that is either outright false or misrepresented revisionist spin based off misstated Celerity Nov 2021 #57

Facts are facts. This is not an "alternative fact" zone. lapucelle Nov 2021 #59

He's still voting for our judges. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2021 #20

RANT (verb): "speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way." brooklynite Nov 2021 #23

So you will be happy with Joe Biden not getting any more judges confirmed? LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #27

Oh ffs Hekate Nov 2021 #28

WRONG. It's time to INCREASE our Dem Senate majority New Breed Leader Nov 2021 #41

This, until someone can explain how a non conservative wins in WV. nt Kahuna Nov 2021 #61

Absolutely Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2021 #63

i feel your pain but guess what we have a 50-50 senate. democrats need to win more seats in 22. dsp3000 Nov 2021 #46

I dream of a day when he becomes irrelevant as an obstructionist Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2021 #47

So, you broke your silence to advocate that Mitch McConnell should MineralMan Nov 2021 #54

Absolutely not. If we push Manchin out of the party then we lose control of the Senate and the totodeinhere Nov 2021 #62